Midnight Ops Mafia: Game Thread. Game Over!

[ExLight]

i liked jackito though

 

[Xivii]

Never yeet: Fonti, Chaco, Triss, Darkpit, Xivii, Z25

Only Yeet if the below don't end the game: LaserGuy, Malakandra, ExLight

Voted his scumbud for weak reasoning, failed to join the wagon when it came down to it, was lurking near end of day and posted after the execution to try and make himself look like he didn't know what Frozen was going to flip: Boom

Scum Claimed: JackJam

 

[Xivii]

i liked jackito though

Considering his play was nothing like Token, you shouldn't have.

 

[ExLight]

Considering his play was nothing like Token, you shouldn't have.

hmmm i didnt see him real time to maybe yea
how was it diffent to you

 

[Xivii]

They claimed very late, after it was clear no one else would. Xivii especially, Fonti's timing was more ligit. Also, if mafia has 0 ninja shots then they know there can't be counter claims.

How so? If there were 0 ninja shots, I would assume there was a traitor and Chocolate.

 

[ExLight]

Chaco

why is chaco green

 

[Xivii]

hmmm i didnt see him real time to maybe yea
how was it diffent to you

No attempt to read anyone or puzzle things out. He just made vague meta reads on Triss and Laser that didn't even hold up. Fake aggression as well. There was no attempt to do anything. I let is slide due the possibility he was Neap avoiding the NK, but now that we know that's not the case, he's just scum.

 

[ExLight]

How so? If there were 0 ninja shots, I would assume there was a traitor and Chocolate.

or none right
if they say you claiming then theyd know thers no visitor and could fake clam it tho hmm

 

[ExLight]

nevermimd therees no recruiting for the traitor so fonti is provably cleared

 

[fontisian]

Vote: Rajam

Yeet.

 

[LaserGuy]

Now that I have scintillated your eyes with color, think the most likely to be scum out of my other category is Exlight. I didn't trust Somo's content yesterday, and the vote onto Laser looks even worse in hindsight. IIRC their reasoning was originally to keep things spicy, then they elaborated saying they didn't like the other two wagons and Laser's the only other viable one and his vote onto Jack looked like distancing. The other two votes on laser had been there for a while, and no one was even talking about voting Laser for the most part so I don't think his wagon was actually viable. If Exlight wanted to make it viable, they should of pushed harder for it rather than just giving the small reasoning they did and sitting back. Not to mention the weird push on Fonti at the start. Fonti literally created the whole push on FF and was the reason it got through, thats as good as a mason saying she's clear in my book, especially since we need to keep our PR's alive right now instead of having them out for a pretty pointless reason after that flip IMO.

What do you think scum!Exlight's motivation for voting me here was if they weren't trying to make a real case on me?

Never yeet: Fonti, Chaco, Triss, Darkpit, Xivii, Z25

Only Yeet if the below don't end the game: LaserGuy, Malakandra, ExLight

Voted his scumbud for weak reasoning, failed to join the wagon when it came down to it, was lurking near end of day and posted after the execution to try and make himself look like he didn't know what Frozen was going to flip: Boom

Scum Claimed: JackJam

Tunnel vision would be a reason why you're still alive. As someone who is townreading you, and seemingly an universal town-read from yersterDay, I'm telling you: drop the tunnel, look somewhere else. Scum left you alive for a reason: you were wrong

This is the post in question btw.

Vote Rajam

 

[Xivii]

Traitor - 1
Choco +1
Visitor +2

If there's 0 ninja shots, scum can fake claim Visitor but not Chocolate (because setup is either Chocolate + Traitor or None of Chocolate/Visitor/Traitor)
If there is 1 ninja shot, scum can't fake claim ether Visitor or Chocolate (because setup is Chocolate only or Visitor + Traitor)
If there is 2 ninja shots, scum can't fake claim either Visitor or Chocolate (because setup is Visitor only or Visitor + Chocolate + Traitor)
If there is 3 ninja shots, scum can't fake claim either Visitor or Chocolate (because setup is Visitor + Chocolate)

So scum could not safely claim Chocolate in either case.
Scum could only safely claim Visitor if they had 0 shots or if they had 1 shot and no one claimed chocolate. So in this case, scum could have only safely claimed Visitor if they had 0 ninja shots.

 

[Xivii]

Wait a second. Looking at the role PMs in the OP it looks like scum actually do only have night chat? Is this so UtopianPoyzin ?

If so, then what DP took for a town slip from Mala earlier, may have actually been a scum slip.

 

[LaserGuy]

Seems like there's some inconsistency in the rules?

8. Factional communication (mafiatalk, masontalk) is restricted to the night phase only, so faction talking is not allowed during the day. Factional communication is allowed at all times.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

It was changed between the signups and the actual game. Masons and Mafia can access their chat at all times while they are still alive.

 

[ExLight]

i asked about it in my post
waiting fo r them to answer

 

[ExLight]

It was changed between the signups and the actual game. Masons and Mafia can access their chat at all times while they are still alive.

nice thanks

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

That was an error on my end; I did not switch the wording when copying over the Sample Role PMs.

 

[Malakandra]

What do you think scum!Exlight's motivation for voting me here was if they weren't trying to make a real case on me?

I would think a wagon scum could be more sure about for FF to self prez onto. If Exlight and Raj are both scum, then they could be more certain in the laser wagon staying up than the Xivii wagon, which was getting a lot more pressure for people to switch off and the members were online, where as NSG was MIA at the end there. Same reason I think Jack/Raj stayed on it for as long as they did and didn't change it when they came back to the thread.

 

[Malakandra]

fontisian whats your reasoning for thinking Exlight is town that you mentioned earlier?

 

[Malakandra]

Vote Rajam

Yeeteth deleteth.

 

[ExLight]

i think im starting to sober up but ill go for more and you aint ****ing stopping me

 

[ExLight]

can we get a votecouyn tho pls
i feel like votes are gathering too fast

 

[Xivii]

L-2 full steam ahead, let's get a flip before I fall asleep.

 

[Malakandra]

[4] Rajam: Xivii, Fonti, Laser, Mala
[1] ExLight: Trisscar
[1] Chaco: ExLight

should be accurate ex

 

[fontisian]

Don't actually hammer yet, thanks.

Malakandra Pretend you're ExLight and you're scum. Do you show up at the beginning of the Day calling Darkpit and Trisscar mafia, pickinf fights with everyone (included the person who just yeeted your partner), talking about the scum rolecop, and screaming about how you're vanilla?

Alsp, Trisscar's town for her belief in ExLight faking being drunk. Imagine being mafia there and accusing someone you know is town of faking spelling errors to pretend to be drunk.

 

[Xivii]

Sabrar we could use your vote.

 

[fontisian]

If you all do hammer and I die, my recommended yeet order is Rajam -> Boom -> Laser -> Mala.

 

[ExLight]

lmfao now its ran lurking
join as a sub will you ranmaru

 

[Malakandra]

Don't actually hammer yet, thanks.

Malakandra Pretend you're ExLight and you're scum. Do you show up at the beginning of the Day calling Darkpit and Trisscar mafia, pickinf fights with everyone (included the person who just yeeted your partner), talking about the scum rolecop, and screaming about how you're vanilla?

Alsp, Trisscar's town for her belief in ExLight faking being drunk. Imagine being mafia there and accusing someone you know is town of faking spelling errors to pretend to be drunk.

No lol. Good point.

I agree with you on Triss, don't see that being a scum tactic.

 

[Xivii]

before I fall asleep.

I can't hold this form much longer, gn.

 

[Malakandra]

Night!

 

[ExLight]

i think i drink too much atonce oof

 

[Chaco]

Triss is beyond right about Ex’s drunk speech pattern. No one starts posting like that and 20 minutes that is back to normal. Like cmon, and you claimed while pulling it.

besides that horrendous mess, still think Boom is the play. Even though I believe half of that “drunk” speech was faked. Even if you were hammered, it wouldn’t have been bad enough and bounced back. (And before I’m told I don’t know what I’m talking about, I bartended for about 5 years.)

 

[Chaco]

I will say it wasn’t inherently scummy though. More just poorly thought out.

 

[Chaco]

Wait so Rajam and then Boom?

 

[Rajam]

From Frozen's #260, Chaco vs BoomFrog is definitely not SvS

 

[Rajam]

UtopianPoyzin is the scum team notified whether or not they have a traitor on their team?

Anyone familiar with ExLight scum's meta? Chances of scum ExLight asking this?

 

[Xivii]

Triss is beyond right about Ex’s drunk speech pattern. No one starts posting like that and 20 minutes that is back to normal. Like cmon, and you claimed while pulling it.

besides that horrendous mess, still think Boom is the play. Even though I believe half of that “drunk” speech was faked. Even if you were hammered, it wouldn’t have been bad enough and bounced back. (And before I’m told I don’t know what I’m talking about, I bartended for about 5 years.)

Interesting. Based on what I've seen of Triss' intuition in the past and your experience here, I'm inclined to think there's a good chance Ex is scum here.

Anyone familiar with ExLight scum's meta? Chances of scum ExLight asking this?

He's only been town on smashboards so far.

 

[Rajam]

ExLight, in your #968 you post the next:

#HBC | FrozeηFlame said:
8. Darkpit54 - posts just don't set of scum alarm bells for me at all, and the content seems mostly on point so its a solid townlean

hmmm

Your response to this was a 'hmmm'. What does that mean, can you expand a bit more?