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MIA: Ridley and Isaac

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PeterJude

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Whilst there are plenty of characters who mightn't make it into the game one way or the other, with the full trophy list now seemingly seen for the 3DS, there are two very notable missing characters, Ridley and Isaac. Isaac no longer being an assist trophy is bizarre enough, but the 3DS version being the first Ridley-free Smash game, with him having been one of the most wanted newcomers? When considered along side trophies for Mewtwo, K Rool, Dixie and co., this comes across as even more odd.

Where are they? Why aren't they there?
 

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Isaac can't be a Wii U only Assist Trophy because...?

None of this is that surprising. If the characters only exist on the Wii U version, having their trophies there is completely logical.
 

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Wii U n 3DS have exclusive trophies...keep that in mind.

As far as Ridley :
Sak-Man, add the lizard so the fan will finally sthu ;)

For Isaac:
I love telekinesis so he's a win

Maybe the wii u will have more characters n u can transfer them over. If u don't have a wii u then u can download them from the eshop (for a small fee)
 
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Bandana Dee is also still missing, isn't he?

Anyways, it'd seem odd to not have such a major character as Ridley on the 3DS as at least a trophy, especially when there are almost 700 different ones, but I guess since he has a role on the Wii U he could be an exclusive trophy. There are also Wii U exclusive Assist Trophies as evidenced by the lack of Ashley on the 3DS, so same could hold true for Isaac. It'd be lame to not even have a trophy of these two very notable characters on the 3DS just because they have a role on the Wii U version, but that doesn't mean it isn't a possibility, I at least find it more likely than Wii U exclusive characters.
 
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Bandana Dee is also still missing, isn't he?

Anyways, it'd seem odd to not have such a major character as Ridley on the 3DS as at least a trophy, especially when there are almost 700 different ones, but I guess since he has a role on the Wii U he could be an exclusive trophy. There are also Wii U exclusive Assist Trophies as evidenced by the lack of Ashley on the 3DS, so same could hold true for Isaac. It'd be lame to not even have a trophy of these two very notable characters on the 3DS just because they have a role on the Wii U version, but that doesn't mean it isn't a possibility, I at least find it more likely than Wii U exclusive characters.
Well, being first shown on the Wii U and downloadable later is actually possible. Since that's not an "exclusive". But who knows, really.
 

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1 character in 12 for fan service for 4/5ths of his market!

WE DID IT GUYS!
Well a lot of the other characters appeal to both markets I'd think. Animal Crossing Villager, Megaman, and Pac-man I doubt have Japan only appeal.
 

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Aren't all the golden sun games on handheld devices(except for wii u VC)? Strange how wouldn't be in the 3ds version.
 

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The fact that Isaac is absent from the 3DS version is extremely backwards in my opinion.
Also, Ridley not having a trophy in the 3DS game indicates he is being mostly identified by his Other M form, which is stupid.
 

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Impa's trophy is weird because the name specifically says "Impa (Ocarina of Time)" implying there was another version of her included?
Probably the ALbW version, but my imagination doesn't care.
 

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Isaac is likely to be DLC,Ridley i don't see happening at this point,well ruturning whit isaac,literally nothing from GS in the game is strange (custom robo & advance wars have trophies) in this point i think isaac is DLC whit snake,the other dlc characters are likely to be random characters for promote games (Sceptile for ruby omega, Inkling for Splatoon, The Xenoblade X protagonit for Xenoblade Chronicles X,Maybe Bayonetta,Impa to Hyrule Warriors...)
 

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Impa's trophy is weird because the name specifically says "Impa (Ocarina of Time)" implying there was another version of her included?
Probably the ALbW version, but my imagination doesn't care.
It looks like they prefer making distinctions between the characters. For exemple, Ganondorf, Zelda and Link all have "_toki" in data, but Zelda is refered as "youngzelda", Link as "younlink", and Ganondorf as "Ganondorf". Indeed, the playable Ganondorf is refered as "Ganon" for whatever dark reason.

Isaac is likely to be DLC,Ridley i don't see happening at this point,well ruturning whit isaac,literally nothing from GS in the game is strange (custom robo & advance wars have trophies) in this point i think isaac is DLC whit snake,the other dlc characters are likely to be random characters for promote games (Sceptile for ruby omega, Inkling for Splatoon, The Xenoblade X protagonit for Xenoblade Chronicles X,Maybe Bayonetta,Impa to Hyrule Warriors...)
Is there a custom robot trophy ? Please could you tell me where is it on those pictures :

http://i.imgur.com/jCeSg6S.png
http://i.imgur.com/N43l3ar.png
http://i.imgur.com/FmZiylW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ORrYj0g.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4woiHo9.jpg
 
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i confuse custom robo whit fossil fighters XD
well i see more eshop characters and i like that
 

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Isaac can't be a Wii U only Assist Trophy because...?

None of this is that surprising. If the characters only exist on the Wii U version, having their trophies there is completely logical.
Ice Climbers could have only been on the Wii U version but weren't
 

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Isaac can't be a Wii U only Assist Trophy because...?

None of this is that surprising. If the characters only exist on the Wii U version, having their trophies there is completely logical.
That doesn't really make sense for Isaac, a character from Golden Sun, a HANDHELD series, to be exclusive to the console version...

Methinks Sakurai forgot-eth much. :(
 

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Isaac can't be a Wii U only Assist Trophy because...?

None of this is that surprising. If the characters only exist on the Wii U version, having their trophies there is completely logical.
Well he can be, but all the others have trophies in the 3DS version. Isaac is well and truly suspicious.

Not to mention the stage bosses having trophies...

The simple point is that some characters might just be missed, but Ridley and Isaac? Ridley has been in every game in some form or another, him being completely out of this one is bizarre, not to mention Isaac going from assist trophy to non-existent.
 
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People need to stop assuming that when people talk about the extra characters on the Wii U version they are talking about them being exclusive to that console.. that is not the case at all. The extra characters would come to 3DS via an update on the store. Free most likely.
 

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Isaac might be in, I really want him in, but there's always a chance Golden Sun will just be ignored completely this time.

Ridley was deconfirmed awhile ago, you guys are so desperate :3

Just stop posting about it and enjoy purple charizard
 
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Isaac might be in, I really want him in, but there's always a chance Golden Sun will just be ignored completely this time.

Ridley was deconfirmed awhile ago, you guys are so desperate :3

Just stop posting about it and enjoy purple charizard
I'm sure you can just enjoy a blond haired Mii eh?

What is with this trend of people hating Ridley? I don't even care about Ridley, but people suddenly jump any anything approaching "Screw Ridley, he's awful, uninteresting and too big for our lovely smash" as supporting him. I really don't get the attitude about it.

What's interesting here is just the complete absence of two highly requested characters, if you want to get into some huge back patting ring, I'm sure there's plenty of places on here for that.

As a boss.

And regarding Isaac, wasn't the Wii U version confirmed to have more content such as Pokemon and Assist Trophies? Maybe he's there too?
Doesn't explain why he's lack a trophy though. There are assist trophies that aren't in the 3DS version that have their trophy confirmed for it. Why would Issac, a former assist trophy and a highly requested newcomer be nowhere to be found?
 
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Man, if I get Isaac as a character everything is forgiven in my eyes.

Come on people, please, don't get my hopes up like this. It will hurt so bad when the truth comes out...

Anyway, it is strange that Ridely is nowhere in Smash 3DS and I would hope that means he has a more significant role that only the Wii U version would reveal. Metriod is a larger Nintendo franchise then most and to not have anything about a major recurring boss is...curious to say the least.
 

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Doesn't explain why he's lack a trophy though. There are assist trophies that aren't in the 3DS version that have their trophy confirmed for it. Why would Issac, a former assist trophy and a highly requested newcomer be nowhere to be found?
My guess is that according to Sakurai on the dropped Ice Climbers, no priority was given to series without a future installment coming. And considering how Dark Dawn did...

I'm with you on this, I wanted Isaac in Smash in some form, but this is kind of strange.
 

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Man, if I get Isaac as a character everything is forgiven in my eyes.

Come on people, please, don't get my hopes up like this. It will hurt so bad when the truth comes out...

Anyway, it is strange that Ridely is nowhere in Smash 3DS and I would hope that means he has a more significant role that only the Wii U version would reveal. Metriod is a larger Nintendo franchise then most and to not have anything about a major recurring boss is...curious to say the least.
As it stands, Smash 3DS is the only Smash game to not feature Ridley.

My guess is that according to Sakurai on the dropped Ice Climbers, no priority was given to series without a future installment coming. And considering how Dark Dawn did...

I'm with you on this, I wanted Isaac in Smash in some form, but this is kind of strange.
To be completely honest, my knowledge of Isaac goes as far as his Japanese name being Robin, that's it. My own personal take on characters is that it's the unique playstyles and gameplay that's important, not the characters. I just tend to get a bit curious about things, and considering the amount of people who wanted Isaac, and the fact I remember him as an assist trophy, it just seems odd that he's not even a trophy for the 3DS version.

It's also worth noting that it seems the "priority" argument only really applied to playable characters, and I think it was really just an excuse to dampen the whole loss of the Ice Climbers.

In fact, I also don't think that the priority argument works in any case, as the series is still very relevant. From what I can tell (I'm seriously just reading up on this) the most recent game only hit the market in 2010, and whilst it wasn't as good as the previous games, it certainly wasn't Sonic 2006 bad. In fact, from what I can find it was quite well received even. With him being a highly requested newcomer, and a prior assist trophy, there is seriously no reason whatsoever that he'd be downgraded (particularly with so many new assist trophies) and even if he was Wii U exclusive, he'd have still had a trophy judging by the other "Wii U only" assist trophies having standard trophies on the 3DS.

The whole situation just doesn't add it, and that is interesting. I have no idea what it means, but it is interesting.
 
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Isaac might be in, I really want him in, but there's always a chance Golden Sun will just be ignored completely this time.

Ridley was deconfirmed awhile ago, you guys are so desperate :3

Just stop posting about it and enjoy purple charizard
Please never post ":3" again on this website as long as you live.
 

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Please never post ":3" again on this website as long as you live.
I like it though :3

On topic I have no hate for Ridley, in fact I wouldn't mind him in, I will get bored of beating up my Sakurai Mii in training mode, Ridley would be a good dummy too.

 

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I like it though :3

On topic I have no hate for Ridley, in fact I wouldn't mind him in, I will get bored of beating up my Sakurai Mii in training mode, Ridley would be a good dummy too.

My punching bags are gonna be pit, african american pit, and of course pale-tuna.
 
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