MetaKnight's Grab Options at the Ledge

[Royale]

[SIZE="5"]MetaKnight Ledge Grab Test[/SIZE]

Performed at Final Destination, either side.  Using Standard, Dash grabs.  Assuming if you can Dash grab a character listed below, you can pivot grab them. 

MetaKnight

-Standard Grab: YES [only when head peaks above platform]
-Dash: YES [only when head peaks above platform]
-Pivot: YES  [only when head peaks above platform]

Kirby

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Luigi

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Mario

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Donkey Kong

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: Yes
-Pivot: YES

Ice Climbers [together, and popo alone]

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Olimar

-Standard Grab: YES
-Dash: YES
-Pivot: YES

Pikachu
-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Squritle

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Ivysaur

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Charizard

-Standard Grab: YES [must be right next to]
-Dash: YES
-Pivot: YES

Jigglypuff

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Ness

-Standard Grab: YES [only when head peaks above platform]
-Dash: YES [only when head peaks above platform]
-Pivot: YES [only when head peaks above platform]

Lucas

-Standard Grab: YES [only when head peaks above platform]
-Dash: YES [only when head peaks above platform]
-Pivot: YES [only when head peaks above platform]

Video of MetaKnight's Ledge Grabbing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbEkNuskMUI&feature=channel_page

MetaKnight; 0:00 - 3:09
Olimar; 3:10 - 4:22
Donkey Kong; 4:23 - 5:22
Charizard; 5:23 - 5:56
Ness; 5:57 - 7:20
Lucas; 7:21 - 8:05

Credit goes wherever credit is due, i know im not the first to figure this out.


This list represents the ONLY characters whom Meta can grab at the ledge AFTER the invincibility frames go out. Pay attention to the way i grab Meta, Ness, Lucas, those must be timed correctly due to their 'hang on the ledge' animation. Their heads 'peak' above the stage, this is the only time when Meta can grab them. Watch the video closely and PAY ATTENTION to that carefully.

Mainly used Fthrow,Dthrow,Uthrow's into combos to see what i could come up with. Uthrow,jab,dair works nicely. Fthrow,Dair,Footstool is also good. Dthrow or Fthrow,fair,fair does nicely too. I tried working in some Nair but with my test subject being a rag doll i dont think i could of done much with it. But depending on your opponents percent and weight, you could possibly Dthrow into a Nair,dair if they're still in close proximity. I dont really get on Meta that much, so as for what you guys do with it, its up to you. Play with the idea and see what you can come up with for comboing at the ledge.


Other Information to look at

Mario's Ledge Grab Option's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkZMSpNneb4&feature=channel_page

MetaKnight; 0:00 - 1:02
Lucas; 1:03 - 1:37
Ness; 1:38 - 2:58
Olimar; 2:59 - 4:34
Donkey Kong; 4:35 - 5:12
Charizard; 5:13 - 5:49


Olimar's Ledge Grab Option's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1_u28kMF2Q&feature=channel_page

MetaKnight; 0:00 - 1:20
Donkey Kong; 1:21 - 2:22
Ice Climbers; 2:23 - 4:15
Kirby; 4:16 - 5:13
Luigi; 5:14 - 6:30
Ivysaur Grab stage lock; 6:31 - 7:33

Disclaimer: Olimar's Ledge Grab Release infinite on MetaKnight only applies if the person is idle. This makes it not a true infinite because it requires your opponent to not be present at the match. In a real match the infinite will never ever take place due to the mechanics of how it works -- Plus it is escapable.



Olimar's Ledge Grabbing Thread, with more information.


The reason I'm bringing Mario's and Olimar's ledge grabbing to your attention, Metaknight mains, is because i want to show you that Meta is at risk for getting grabbed off the ledge. This is due to his bald head and part of his face breaching above the ledge during his "hang on the ledge" animation. This is something you should be careful about. While personally, i think the safetest guy to grab Meta off the ledge is Olimar, a Meta user needs to think wisely about his options while hanging on the ledge; Drop down? Jump up? Get up attack? Roll get up ontop platform? Shuttle loop is a ok option, but alot of players will generally see that coming.

If there are any questions or errors, MSN/AIM/PM i'll look into it.

 

[Babar-Thorbald]

Woah! Cool stuff dude, didn't know about that!

 

[Ace Of Flames]

Too bad most get up before the frames run out

Good **** though.

 

[pixelbind]

good find, hopefully they won't plank though o.0

 

[Sushi-Man]

Very interesting. It should be put in the mk board directory

 

[Royale]

I still need to get around to testing the other characters; mainly Jiggs, Pkmn Trainer, Luigi, Pika, Ness. I've got Kirby and Lucas done already.

Heres the MetaKnight portion for that;

Kirbys Ledge Grabbing Test

Preformed at Final Destination, either side.  Note Kirby must be in close proxitmity to
opponent in order to grab them off the ledge, this is due to his grab range.

MetaKnight

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: YES

Lucas Grab Test

Performed at Final Destination, either edge.  Using Standard, Dash and Pivot Grabs.

Metaknight

-Standard Grab: NO
-Dash: NO
-Pivot: NO

Once i make the video's i'll update the OP.