Mega Bidoof's Roster Judging

[Mega Bidoof]

I'm Mega Bidoof, and I'll judge your Roster
Post your roster here, and I'll critique it.
So let's get those rosters going.

Note: I will really prefer if they are in picture form and not typed out.
Also, tell me if you want me to judge it by realism, creativity, or a mix of both.

 

[Adrian G]

Check it.

This is my alternate. This one is complete.

I don't honestly believe that Ridley, or Roy will make the cut. But i included them anyways. The ones which i feel are all but guaranteed are Bowser Jr, Dixie Kong, Ghirahim, Little Mack, Mewtwo, and Chrom. The ones who i'm 50/50 on are Waluigi, King K. Rool, Palutena, Crystal, Shulk, and Pac-Man.

 

[Lugubrious]

I submit myself to judgement. Be gentle.

 

[PixelPasta]

Alrighty, this is my latest roster.

I'm very interested to see what you think of it.

 

[the smash nerd]

Do my's

 

[Vintage Creep]

FU iF U don't like it.

 

[Fortanono]

Have a roster! Judge it by creativity.

Do you see it? I know what it is, but I can't see the image.

EDIT: I'll just link to it in case you can't see it. http://fortanono.deviantart.com/art/My-Updated-SSB4-Roster-407308320

 

[Mega Bidoof]

This is my alternate. This one is complete.



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I don't honestly believe that Ridley, or Roy will make the cut. But i included them anyways. The ones which i feel are all but guaranteed are Bowser Jr, Dixie Kong, Ghirahim, Little Mack, Mewtwo, and Chrom. The ones who i'm 50/50 on are Waluigi, King K. Rool, Palutena, Crystal, Shulk, and Pac-Man.

Ok, first, off Mario Series:
Bowser Jr. - Most likely Mario character behind Toad (but Toad is practically deconfirmed)

Wario Series:
Waluigi - He is outprioritized by other characters but would still offer a unique moveset, but still unlikely

DK series:
Dixie Kong - Likely because of Tropical Freeze, i support her
K Rool - good character but hasnt appeared since DK64 also 2 DK reps ins unlikely

Zelda series:
Ghirahim - would have a great moveset, but one shot Zelda villains are unlikely (Skull Kid didnt get in Melee and Zant didnt get in Brawl)

Metroid:
Ridley - Ridley is really great for smash bros and size doesnt matter, good choice!

Kid Icarus:
Palutena - Likely because Sakurai now makes the KI seres and KI has gotten popular in recent years

Pokemon:
Mewtwo - I think he is practically guaranteed to return.
I also want to say that Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon deserve the same amount of characters

Fire Emblem:
Roy - i like him but there is no reason for his return
Chrom - most recent hero, pretty likely

Starfox:
Krystal - Not really likely, but a good character. SF doesnt really deserve more than 3 reps.

Other:
Little Mac - really likely, could have a cool moveset
Shulk - likely, but im not sure with the new X game coming out

Third Party:
Pac Man - Likely, could have a cool moveset, Namco is producing the game

Overall this roster is OK, it is mossing some characters though, like a new retro character, and a 5th Pokemon character

This roster gets a Mega Bidoof rating of 7.75

 

[APC99]

Here you go, Mega Bidoof.

-Just to point it out, Geno's on here due to pre-Brawl popularity.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Can people please hold off on the rosters for a bit, I didn't expect this many.
I'll probably do 2 tomorrow

 

[Mega Bidoof]

FU iF U don't like it.

I will not judge this do to your vulgar language

Good day sir.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I submit myself to judgement. Be gentle.

Waluigi - a very interesting choice, but unfortunately unlikely

K rool - I prefer Dixie but still ok

Ghirahim - one shot Zelda villain usually don't get in

Ridley - a big ol' yes

Chrom - yes, since he is the most recent FE hero

Lack of Ike- no real reason to be cut, I think no Brawls should be cut

Palutena - the best be KI rep

Masked Man over Lucas - I want masked man in and he would be a great mother rep but I don't think he should replace Lucas

Dillon - hasn't really made himself a big series yet, but still cool

Little Mac - very, very likely. Could have a really good moveset

Ashley - I don't think Wario needs another rep, but Ashley could be a really good one

Mewtwo - very likely to return and have a good moveset

Genesect - if you are trying to represent the movie, mewtwo already does that, I don't think unova should be represented because hoenn wasn't represented in brawl

Lack of 5th character - pokemon deserves a 5th rep, pokemon trainer should come back and fill that role

Shulk - yes, but I'm not sure with monoliths new game X

Lack of Snake - snake should stay in, Sakurai and Kojima are best friends


A good roster but missing some roles. All brawl characters should stay
In all, I give this a

7.25

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I should be able to do PixelPasta's and The Smash Nerd's tomorrow

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

You may take your time with the others, but here's my latest roster...

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Although not too likely, Rosalina would represent the Super Mario Galaxy portion of the Mario Universe. The rest of the roster contains more important characters, in general.

 

[Lugubrious]

Waluigi - a very interesting choice, but unfortunately unlikely

K rool - I prefer Dixie but still ok
Ghirahim - one shot Zelda villain usually don't get in
Ridley - a big ol' yes
Chrom - yes, since he is the most recent FE hero
Lack of Ike- no real reason to be cut, I think no Brawls should be cut
Palutena - the best be KI rep
Masked Man over Lucas - I want masked man in and he would be a great mother rep but I don't think he should replace Lucas
Dillon - hasn't really made himself a big series yet, but still cool
Little Mac - very, very likely. Could have a really good moveset
Ashley - I don't think Wario needs another rep, but Ashley could be a really good one
Mewtwo - very likely to return and have a good moveset
Genesect - if you are trying to represent the movie, mewtwo already does that, I don't think unova should be represented because hoenn wasn't represented in brawl
Lack of 5th character - pokemon deserves a 5th rep, pokemon trainer should come back and fill that role
Shulk - yes, but I'm not sure with monoliths new game X
Lack of Snake - snake should stay in, Sakurai and Kojima are best friends
A good roster but missing some roles. All brawl characters should stay
In all, I give this a

7.25

Thanks for the review. I won't question your personal opinion and judgement but it's a solid fact that Kojima is shunning the Wii U, which overcasts Snake's chances severely. I did know already that Waluigi and Ghirahim are very unlikely but I like them too much to leave them out. If I were to replace them with characters that have a good chance, I would say Bowser Jr. and Skull Kid.

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

I don't care for relevancy, size, or propriety arguments: These characters reflect my current vision for a Smash Bros. game, so judge it on its creative merits. A couple of notes, only the first is important:

Note 1. The "?" portraits from left to right represent:

• A female Chozo Warrior from Chozo lore, using alternate Chozo technology such as the Speed Boost.
• Erim, the Sinistral of Death from Lufia. She features a strong teleportation game with the longest reach in the cast.
• Frog, from Chrono Trigger, with access to unique zoning abilities like Slurp Cut and Bubble (carry enemies away in it and pop for damage)

Note 2. Zelda spoiler alert -

Spoiler

The portrait of Zelda is a placeholder for Hylia. Aside from Demise, the principle Zelda characters are not borrowed from a specific game but represent the spirits of the characters overarching the series. I think this creates a new opportunity for giving them a fresh feel.

To stress their differences, Zelda and Impa no longer transform, but call to each other followed by quickly teleporting into the battle. They can perform actions out of teleportation, preventing camping, so calling has a significant cooldown period.

Skull Kid is a placeholder for the Skull Kid/Majora entity. I know you think that they missed their boat, but I am too interested in seeing the entity as the first possession and influence based character.

Note 3. I have never played Kid Icarus: Uprising or any Fire Emblem game, so I don't know what their place in the game could look like at all.

Note 4. In my view, Dixie & Kiddy do not function independently like the Ice Climbers. They would be a lead-swapping duo, where the inactive character is invincible. The dynamics of throwing each other would function similarly as in DKC3, serving as their principle recovery but also an attack option.

Note. 5 Most of the cuts and replacements are deliberate. Katt, being feline, is very capable of emulating Wolf's claw/acrobatic style of fighting. I am burned out on Meta Knight.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I will not judge this do to your vulgar language

Good day sir.

It's 2 good 4 u

 

[Mega Bidoof]

List of days of roster reviews
Today - PixelPsta, and Smash Nerd

Tomorrow - fortanono, and APC99

Thursday - Mario and Sonic Guy, and Quilt

I should be able to handle more in a week and a half, I have stuff for schools I it's hard to fit in time for this

 

[Mega Bidoof]

It's 2 good 4 u

Yeah, because Ganon, Toon Ganondorf, and Lucina are too good for me.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Yeah, because Ganon, Toon Ganondorf, and Lucina are too good for me.

Says the guy who considers Waluigi an interesting good choice

 

[Mega Bidoof]

PixelPasta's roster review

Alrighty, this is my latest roster.

I'm very interested to see what you think of it.

NEWCOMERS
Toad is a good character choice, but he is less likely because he is still in peach's moveset

Paper mario would also be a very good character, has a decent amount of likeliness, but I think Bowser Jr. and to an extent Waluigi out prioritize him

Dixie Kong is the most likely DK newcomer at this point, her appearance in tropical freeze boosts her chances

King K Rool is a great character, I wish he was more likely, but unfortunately, he hasn't has many recent appearances

Tingle, I'm starting to warm up to him, he is probably the most likely new Zelda rep, but is is infamous in the west and I prefer toon Zelda, it ill give him points for realism because I don't rate rosters on a biase

Chrom is the most likely new FE rep (I'm my opinion) and he could have a unique moveset

WaddleDee is one of the most likely new Kirby reps (it's very arguable) and right next to Prince Fluff, he's my favorite Kirby newcomer

Mewtwo is one of the most likely SSB4 newcomers overall. Nuff said

Palatena is the best new KI rep (screw Magnus)

I have never plated Advance Wars, but ive heard it's kinda popular, so I'm not sure about Andy

Pacman is arguable the most likely 3rd party character, but Sakurai's has said just because Namco is developing the game doesn't mean pacman is a shoo in

Goldensun has been going down in popularity recently, so I'm not sure about Isaac, still a viable choice though

I'm not sure about shulk because he has not been seen in any trailers for X

LACK OF POTENTIAL NEWCOMERS

I'd say Bowser Jr. Is the most likely Mario newcomer

Ridley is one of the most likely Newcomers, do you think he's too big

New Retro character, there have been 2 new retro characters in melee and brawl, and one of them is a WTF character

CUT CHARACTERS

Ike, not sure why you would cut him, I don't think recency is an issues

Snake, Kojima and Sakurai's are best friends, I think Snake is staying

ROB, since g&w stayed in Brawl, I think ROB will stay in SSB4

Lucario, lucario got a mega form, so I think he's safe


This Roster gets a Mega Bidoof rating of 8.75

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Says the guy who considers Waluigi an interesting good choice

So throwing BoBombs, riding in a go kart, using sports stuff, running and jumping with long legs wouldn't be interesting.

 

[Vintage Creep]

So throwing BoBombs, riding in a go kart, using sports stuff, running and jumping with long legs wouldn't be interesting.

Well why not a simple Koopa then? He could do that. Or Funky Kong. Or Baby Daisy!

The fact that his moveset potential is good doesn't mean much, every character has a good moveset potential. The fact that, as a character, he ****ing sucks, it's enough instead.

WALUIGI SUCKS

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Well why not a simple Koopa then? He could do that. Or Funky Kong. Or Baby Daisy!

The fact that his moveset potential is good doesn't mean much, every character has a good moveset potential. The fact that, as a character, he ****ing sucks, it's enough instead.

WALUIGI SUCKS

First off, Koops, baby daisy, and funky kong aren't known for that

2nd MODERATOR!!!!!,
We need a Mod over her. We have a cursing troll

 

[Vintage Creep]

First off, Koops, baby daisy, and funky kong aren't known for that

2nd MODERATOR!!!!!,
We need a Mod over her. We have a cursing troll

I like both your nickname and avatar by the way. Do you have a larger picture for that?
Your topic gets a Simon Adebisi rating of 7.8 out of 10

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I like both your nickname and avatar by the way. Do you have a larger picture for that?
Your topic gets a Simon Adebisi rating of 7.8 out of 10

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Here's my profile pic, I have a high quality one without the background if you want it

 

[PixelPasta]

NEWCOMERS
Toad is a good character choice, but he is less likely because he is still in peach's moveset

Paper mario would also be a very good character, has a decent amount of likeliness, but I think Bowser Jr. and to an extent Waluigi out prioritize him

Dixie Kong is the most likely DK newcomer at this point, her appearance in tropical freeze boosts her chances

King K Rool is a great character, I wish he was more likely, but unfortunately, he hasn't has many recent appearances

Tingle, I'm starting to warm up to him, he is probably the most likely new Zelda rep, but is is infamous in the west and I prefer toon Zelda, it ill give him points for realism because I don't rate rosters on a biase

Chrom is the most likely new FE rep (I'm my opinion) and he could have a unique moveset

WaddleDee is one of the most likely new Kirby reps (it's very arguable) and right next to Prince Fluff, he's my favorite Kirby newcomer

Mewtwo is one of the most likely SSB4 newcomers overall. Nuff said

Palatena is the best new KI rep (screw Magnus)

I have never plated Advance Wars, but ive heard it's kinda popular, so I'm not sure about Andy

Pacman is arguable the most likely 3rd party character, but Sakurai's has said just because Namco is developing the game doesn't mean pacman is a shoo in

Goldensun has been going down in popularity recently, so I'm not sure about Isaac, still a viable choice though

I'm not sure about shulk because he has not been seen in any trailers for X

LACK OF POTENTIAL NEWCOMERS

I'd say Bowser Jr. Is the most likely Mario newcomer

Ridley is one of the most likely Newcomers, do you think he's too big

New Retro character, there have been 2 new retro characters in melee and brawl, and one of them is a WTF character

CUT CHARACTERS

Ike, not sure why you would cut him, I don't think recency is an issues

Snake, Kojima and Sakurai's are best friends, I think Snake is staying

ROB, since g&w stayed in Brawl, I think ROB will stay in SSB4

Lucario, lucario got a mega form, so I think he's safe


This Roster gets a Mega Bidoof rating of 8.75

Thank you for the feedback!
I am glad that you like it. It's exciting to get the highest rating so far!


My responses to a couple of your points:
-I agree that Bowser Jr. is the most likely Mario newcomer, however, I love Toad to bits and I couldn't bear leaving him out. In short, Toad takes the priority to Bowser Jr. for me personally.
-I considered putting in Takamaru as a 'retro' character, but I dropped him in favor of Andy.
-I don't think Ridley is too big; rather, I don't think he is likely to be in Super Smash Bros as a playable character. I really do not want to start an argument though (which has already happened in this thread), so no Ridley talk, please.
-I cut Ike in favor of Chrom, as I do not think that Fire Emblem needs to be represented with more than two characters.
-Snake was never really a good fit, in my opinion. He is a great character from a great bunch of games, but he has no place among these Nintendo all-stars. Again, I don't want to start an argument, so...
-It was really painful for me to cut R.O.B, but I was running out of room. Believe me - I badly want him to stay. I just don't see it happening, especially considering that Sakurai has practically confirmed that there will be cuts.
-I would have kept Lucario for the reason you specified, but I do not believe that the number of Pokemon characters should surpass the Mario series. In this instance, adding Lucario would bring Pokemon to seven characters, while Mario only has six in my roster.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Thank you for the feedback!
I am glad that you like it. It's exciting to get the highest rating so far!


My responses to a couple of your points:
-I agree that Bowser Jr. is the most likely Mario newcomer, however, I love Toad to bits and I couldn't bear leaving him out. In short, Toad takes the priority to Bowser Jr. for me personally.
-I considered putting in Takamaru as a 'retro' character, but I dropped him in favor of Andy.
-I don't think Ridley is too big; rather, I don't think he is likely to be in Super Smash Bros as a playable character. I really do not want to start an argument though (which has already happened in this thread), so no Ridley talk, please.
-I cut Ike in favor of Chrom, as I do not think that Fire Emblem needs to be represented with more than two characters.
-Snake was never really a good fit, in my opinion. He is a great character from a great bunch of games, but he has no place among these Nintendo all-stars. Again, I don't want to start an argument, so...
-It was really painful for me to cut R.O.B, but I was running out of room. Believe me - I badly want him to stay. I just don't see it happening, especially considering that Sakurai has practically confirmed that there will be cuts.
-I would have kept Lucario for the reason you specified, but do not believe that the number of Pokemon characters should surpass the Mario series. In this instance, adding Lucario would bring Pokemon to seven characters, while Mario only has six in my roster.

Adding lucario would make pokemom have 5 characters in your roster.
Also, I'd say 50 is the best roster number
So you could have 2 more characters if you wanted

 

[Mega Bidoof]

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NEWCOMERS

Bowser Jr. Is the most likely Mario newcomer, this is a good and realistic choice

Dixie Kong is the most likely DK choice and could have a good moveset

Ashley could work for wario ware, I would want something along the lines of Kat and Ana

Ghirahim is unlikely as one shot Zelda villains have tended not to get in. Also, he should NOT replace Ganondorf

Classic Link is basically deconfirmed, as Toon Link is in.

Impa, the third most likely Zelda rep in my opinion, right behind Tingle and Tetra/Toon Zelda

Anthony could play cool, but I'd rather have Ridley

Palutena is very likely I'd KIngets another rep

Waddle Dee is a tie for my favorite Kirby newcomer (tied with Prince Fluff) and is moderately likely

Louie is not very likely, and would play practically the same as Olimar. If another Pikmin rep is added, I'd say that it should be Aplh, or the whole Drake Crew

I don't think that Krystal should be in, and definitely not replace Wolf

Mike Jones, I'm not sure about him. I'm not sure if Sakuarai would be willing to add an West only character, if you where designing a game, would you add a not very popular, Japan only character

I think Meowth has an OK shot, but Mewtwo or Lucariom definitely has better chances

I don't think Zoruark is going to be in, X and Y jut rolled around, so I'd think Mewtwo would be a better "newer" rep

Chrom is pretty likely and unique, being the newest FE hero. Liked that you had both Chrom and Ike

Saki, I never play SoP, I'm not sure how popular it is, so ill have to give him 50/50

As I said before, with X coming out and no sign of Shulk, I'm not sure how plenty he is

Mii would be cool, I just wonder how he would work.

Little Mac=very likely

CUT CHARACTERS

Ganondorf, still the main antagonist, and we got a female Ganondorf, (whom I will call ganongirl) in Link between worlds

Toon Link, he's confirmed

Wolf, I don't think that Krystal has priority of him

Pokemon trainer, has no reason to be cut

Lucario, should stay because of his new mega form in X and Y

Lucas, I don't think any Mother characters but I don't think any should be removed either

ROB, no reason to be cut, has the same justifications as G&W

Ice Climbers, all melee to brawl veterans should stay

Snake, I've stated my opinions on snake before, he shouldn't be cut


In all I give this a Mega Bidoof rating of 7.25!

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Have a roster! Judge it by creativity.

Do you see it? I know what it is, but I can't see the image.

EDIT: I'll just link to it in case you can't see it. http://fortanono.deviantart.com/art/My-Updated-SSB4-Roster-407308320

I decided to do one more of these for today

I won't be doing the cut characters section because this will be based on creativity

King Boo, could be really cool, but I'd see him as a luigis mansion rep

Baby Bros. my favorite Yoshi rep

Waluigi, I really support him, but I'm sad because he's not realistic

Impa, my second favorite Zelda newcomer

Ghirahim, could have a really good moveset, but unfortunately unrealistic

Lip, meh,not sure

Yarn Kirby, tired with Waddledee as my favorite kirby newcomer

Krystal I always liked the idea of Krystal, but I don't think she should replace wolf

Dunk Hunt Dog, I recently started to like him, he could use the zapper and clay discs

Lucina, I'm not sure she AND Chrom should be in, I'd prefer Chrom, but I still like her

Sinnoh trainer, a worthy replacement for Kanto Trainer, but I'd prefer Hoenn Trainer

Meowth, has popularity from the anime, could be really cool

Victini, a really cool gen 5 rep right next to genosect and Zoruark

PAC-Man, one of the most popular 3rd party reps


This roster is pretty creative while also being kinda realistic.

I don't really give number rating to creative roster, but I will say great job!

 

[BluePikmin11]

 

[Vintage Creep]

Where did you take some of those images for the characters? I like the Diddy/Dixie one, or King Dedede.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Where did you take some of those images for the characters? I like the Diddy/Dixie one, or King Dedede.

God's Robert's Cousin's roster has it if you can look for it, I made the Diddy and Dixie one on my own.

 

[PixelPasta]

Adding lucario would make pokemom have 5 characters in your roster.
Also, I'd say 50 is the best roster number
So you could have 2 more characters if you wanted

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Charizard
Mewtwo
=6
Adding Lucario would bring that to seven.

I like to keep Mario, Zelda and Pokemon at the same number of characters, so keeping Pokemon at six was important to me when creating my roster.

If I were to add one more rep for each series, I'd add Bowser Jr, Toon Zelda and Lucario.

 

[Tepig2000]

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Squirtle
Ivysaur
CharizardMewtwo
=6
Adding Lucario would bring that to seven.

I like to keep Mario, Zelda and Pokemon at the same number of characters, so keeping Pokemon at six was important to me when creating my roster.

If I were to add one more rep for each series, I'd add Bowser Jr, Toon Zelda and Lucario.

This is good, but Pokemon has more chars than Mario in Brawl. So thats not obrigatory. However, I see your point, I always try to do that when creating rosters, but cant resist adding a bunch of Pokemon because I am a huge fan of the series.

 

[TORNADO BUS DRIVER]

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Here you go, Mega Bidoof.

-Just to point it out, Geno's on here due to pre-Brawl popularity.

I've been looking forward to this one

NEWCOMERS

Toad would be the most likely Mario newcomer, but he is basically deco firmed because of Peach

I don't really like geno, but that's opinion. It seems his popularity has gone done since brawls release

Tingle is Zelda's most likely newcomer next to Toon Zelda and Tetra, but is is infamous here I. The west

Mewtwo is one of the basically guaranteed characters for SSB4

I don't know how likely Sukapon is currently, but he could be very interesting

Palutena is very popular due to Kid Icarus Uprising, considering Sakurai made it, I'd say she has a good chance

Ridley is probably the most requested character for SSB4, I don't believe in the whole "too big" thing, but that might cause an issue.

I love Roy and would really like if he's back in, but I don't think he'll be back

Little Mac is one of the most likely characters for SSB4

I don't know about Porky, but he's my favorite Mother Newcomer

Dixie Kong woud be the most likely DK character, but K Rool comes close

Isaac doesn't seem like such a recent character, he is not retro, but not recent.i don't know where he currently stands in likelihood

Goroh is a character I don't think I've seen of any of my judged rosters yet, I think F Zero deserves a second rep

PAC-man, I am glad you kept Snake and added Pacman, I have ups and downs about pacman, but I feel he is one of the most likely 3rd characters



I don't see any cut characters from Brawl

So in all, this roster gets a Mega Bidoof rating of of 8.75

You are currently the highest on this thread.

 

[PixelPasta]

Ooh, I'm tied with APC99 for highest rated roster! I wonder if anybody will ever reach a 9...?

 

[Adrian G]

My improved roster. Features:
>51 character slots (all 35 Brawl vets + 16 newcomers)
> Pokemon, LOZ, and Mario all have 5 reps
>Star Fox, Kirby, Fire Emblem, DKC, and Kid Icarus all have 3 reps each.

>2 new retro characters

Notes:
> Mewtwo is all but guaranteed, and Lucario has new found significance with his mega-evolution. Besides, if Toon Link is of any indication, most every Brawl vet is safe.

> Do I want Ridley to make the cut? Hell yes. Do I honestly EXPECT him to? Hell no. But perhaps the fan's clamoring demands were heard by Sakurai. At least Ridley has managed to stay relevant all these years. So he has that in his favor at least.

> Solid Snake's chances of returning are severely undermined due to Kojima's blatant neglect towards Wii U. But I hope Sakurai's good relations with Kojima can manage the return of Snake. He deserves a spot.

> I honestly think that Ghirahim can be the exception to the whole (one-off Zelda villains don't make the cut) rule. His move set potential is immaculate, and virtually every Nintendo gamer recognizes him. Plus if we are to have a fifth Zelda rep, it sure as hell better be a villain, and other than Ganondorf, Ghirahim is definitely the most relevant villain. Plus he isn't hated in the West like Tingle. Besides, Tingle has ZERO move set potential. A balloon strapped to his back? Pfft. One word: VILLAGER.

> Since Kid Icarus has many fans, and Sakurai himself created it, i think it's safe to assume that it will have a nice balanced amount of characters: 3. Same as the other (relatively) small series like Star Fox, and Sakurai's brain child, Kirby.

> Yoshi is not counted in the "Mario rep" group since he has had a significant amount of solo games. (Also his series icon is different. Duh). Same goes for Wario.

> Although I don't honestly care much for Pac-man, Namco- Bandai's cooperation in SSB4 raises his chances significantly. Also having Mario, Pac-man, Sonic, and Mega Man in the same game would be earth-shatteringly epic. And, who knows?
Perhaps he could have a good move set. I mean, he has punching gloves, long legs, and a giant mouth. Perhaps something cool can be done with a little imagination.

> Little Mack is long over due. And perhaps SSB4 can give Takamaru a second chance at fame. It worked with Ice Climbers, Mr. Game and Watch, and Pit. The Takamaru attraction in Ninteno Land at least shows that he is not forgotten by Ninty.

> This left me with two gaping holes to fill in order to complete my roster. I'm aware that many people clamor for certain characters. But Geno is no longer relevant, Toad has an extremely limited move set potential (and is part of Peache's move set anyways), King K. Rool hasn't seen the light of day in any form in YEARS, and the F-Zero franchise is dead in the water at the moment. So basically left me with two choices: Waluigi and Shulk.

> Waluigi: We have all seen Waluigi fighting as an assist trophy in Brawl. We KNOW that he can work. And he is very relevant. He has been in every Mario Kart game since Double Dash, and has been in EVERY Mario sports game. He has been requested for a while now and, in this case, it actually makes sense.

> Shulk: Monolith Soft is a first-party developer for Nintendo so Shulk is technically a first-party Nintendo character. His game, Xenoblade Chronicals, was IMMENSELY successful and well reviewed. As you see, there is honestly NO reason why he shouldn't at least be on Sakurai's waiting list. As for "X", I doubt that the timing of this game threatens Shulk's chances. In theory, SSB4 will release only months after "X". Even if the protagonist of "X" becomes hugely popular, a few months is not enough time to sneak a playable character into Smash Bros. Perhaps an assist trophy could make it though.