Matchup Re-Discussion: Luigi

[KayLo!]

If you completely miss, he can punish with a few things depending on where he is (in front of you/behind you/in the air). Fsmash has a lot of endlag.

But if you hit his shield with the tip of fsmash, I think shieldstun + his ridiculously low traction makes it safe on block.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Yeah, if you completely miss he will be able to punish, but you shouldn't be doing that anyway...D-tilt and T-jolt are all you should be doing in this match-up. Also, when you are off the level, fall down and thunder, which hits yourself, and then uair. They basically can't do anything to touch you. I was doing that to BigLou when I was pressured.

 

[Syko_Lemming]

You can thunder off the edge without fast falling?

 

[King~]

yup, just practice it

it works nicely vs luigis headbutt recovery(sans misfire of course, but sometimes you have to risk it all) and other pikachus

 

[KayLo!]

I got misfire killed the other day in dubs.

I was very !!!

 

[altairian]

You can thunder off the edge without fast falling?

I cheat and always jump before thunders, but yeah if you do like a down-tilt-b rather than smashing down and hitting b, you won't fastfall. Play snake for a day and you'll get it down real fast or get 3 stocked a whole lot

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I actually meant fall down, DJ thunder so that you are still going to be below the level, then Uair if they go to close. If not, just QA back.

 

[BakaJuice]

I've found that if you jab a luigi as he recovers from low with his tornado, it cancels out the move and the momentum. If he's still pressing b or a or w/e they use to do tornado, they will restart the move with no momentum, and fall past up-b range before the cooldown is done. Dunno if people knew about this or not, so I thought I'd throw it in.

 

[Roller]

For seriouslies?

idk if it was known or not, but it is new to me regardless. I'll try it out.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Jab always does that...they also can't grab the ledge.