Matchup Chart Project 2015 - Calling Little Mac Mains!

Zareidriel · Nov 6, 2015

Hello Little Mac boards,

I'm Zareidriel. Over in this thread a guy called Assassannerr made a matchup chart, and asked people to help fill it out. It seems like it would be a cool thing to have. With once glance you could have a rough idea of a matchup. It won't be perfect, but for our first go at it in 2015 we're aiming for "somewhat functional."

So here's what I'm going to do. Go to every Character Discussion board, and ask the folks there if they wouldn't mind contributing. To submit one vote, you'll have to fill out one of these:

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Bowser
Bowser Jr
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Duck Hunt
Falco
Fox
Mr. Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Dr. Mario
Marth
Lucina
Metaknight
Ness
Olimar
Palutena
Pikachu
Pit & Dark Pit
Peach
Zelda
R.O.B.
Robin
Rosalina
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Yoshi
Zero Suit Samus
Megaman
Pacman
Sonic
Ryu
Roy
Mewtwo
Lucas
Brawler
Swordfighter
Gunner
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Mark each character with a + for a match where Little Mac HAS THE ADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a - for a match where Little Mac HAS THE DISADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a number 0 for a match you feel is very even.

NOTE THAT I AM ONLY TAKING VOTES FROM MEMBERS WITH Little Mac IN THEIR PROFILE BAR. It can be as either "Wii U Main" or "3DS Main". But if Little Mac is in neither one of those slots when I count the votes on Friday, Nov 13, it won't be counted.

(Yes, for the avid democrats out there, that means you can vote for one other character as well.)

Like I said, they won't be perfect, and each board will probably be a little biased toward their own respective character. But the results should be interesting regardless.

If this thing is successful maybe we'll do a revised version in 2016.

Thanks very much for participating! We need as many votes as possible for each character so please submit a ballot!

McWaffles · Nov 6, 2015

Zareidriel said:
Hello Little Mac boards,

I'm Zareidriel. Over in this thread a guy called Assassannerr made a matchup chart, and asked people to help fill it out. It seems like it would be a cool thing to have. With once glance you could have a rough idea of a matchup. It won't be perfect, but for our first go at it in 2015 we're aiming for "somewhat functional."

So here's what I'm going to do. Go to every Character Discussion board, and ask the folks there if they wouldn't mind contributing. To submit one vote, you'll have to fill out one of these:

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Bowser
Bowser Jr
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Duck Hunt
Falco
Fox
Mr. Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Dr. Mario
Marth
Lucina
Metaknight
Ness
Olimar
Palutena
Pikachu
Pit & Dark Pit
Peach
Zelda
R.O.B.
Robin
Rosalina
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Yoshi
Zero Suit Samus
Megaman
Pacman
Sonic
Ryu
Roy
Mewtwo
Lucas
Brawler
Swordfighter
Gunner
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Mark each character with a + for a match where Little Mac HAS THE ADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a - for a match where Little Mac HAS THE DISADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a number 0 for a match you feel is very even.

NOTE THAT I AM ONLY TAKING VOTES FROM MEMBERS WITH Little Mac IN THEIR PROFILE BAR. It can be as either "Wii U Main" or "3DS Main". But if Little Mac is in neither one of those slots when I count the votes on Friday, Nov 13, it won't be counted.

(Yes, for the avid democrats out there, that means you can vote for one other character as well.)

Like I said, they won't be perfect, and each board will probably be a little biased toward their own respective character. But the results should be interesting regardless.

If this thing is successful maybe we'll do a revised version in 2016.

Thanks very much for participating! We need as many votes as possible for each character so please submit a ballot!

Captain Falcon vs Mac is definitely a - . reason being because Falcon can easily gimp juggle and combo Mac. And all it takes is a grab to put us in danger

Zareidriel · Nov 6, 2015

Thanks for the input, but the idea is that you fill out an entire ballot with matchups against every character.

McWaffles · Nov 6, 2015

Zareidriel said:
Thanks for the input, but the idea is that you fill out an entire ballot with matchups against every character.

Ah didn't notice i apologize.

Rekzius · Nov 6, 2015

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Hope i did this right.
Bowser +
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon +
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt -
Falco +
Fox +
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike +
Jigglypuff -
King Dedede 0
Kirby -
Link -
Little Mac 0
Lucario 0
Luigi 0
Mario 0
Dr. Mario +
Marth +
Lucina 0
Metaknight -
Ness 0
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin -
Rosalina -
Samus 0
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer 0
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman 0
Pacman -
Sonic 0
Ryu +
Roy +
Mewtwo 0
Lucas 0
Brawler 0
Swordfighter +
Gunner 0
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Zareidriel · Nov 6, 2015

Perfecto!!

Chief Hotsuin · Nov 6, 2015

Would it be possible for you to be more precise? l understand that Mac has a bad matchup against say... Jiggs and Robin, but this chart doesn't help tell me who does better versus him. Honestly, he's pretty terrifying for many players (myself included), so giving the comfort of specifics is something l'd recommend.

Zareidriel · Nov 6, 2015

A more accurate or specific weighted matchup chart is something I would like, but we're starting off small and doing a more basic one this time around. I think we'll try a more specific Matchup chart next year, with +1 to +3.

Chief Hotsuin · Nov 6, 2015

I see. Now that l think about it, that was a pretty obvious thing to do. Sorry for the trouble.

Zareidriel · Nov 13, 2015

Voting closes tomorrow at midnight. Get those ballots in! Only got one from the Macs so I could really use a few more!!

SteadyDisciple · Nov 14, 2015

Well, given the low response rate here, I guess my lack of qualifications can be forgiven

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon +
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt 0
Falco +
Fox +
Mr. Game & Watch +
Ganondorf +
Greninja -
Ike +
Jigglypuff -
King Dedede 0
Kirby 0
Link -
Little Mac 0
Lucario +
Luigi 0
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth 0
Lucina +
Metaknight 0
Ness 0
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin 0
Rosalina 0
Samus 0
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer 0
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman 0
Pacman -
Sonic 0
Ryu 0
Roy 0
Mewtwo 0
Lucas 0
Brawler 0
Swordfighter +
Gunner 0
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ZartZu · Nov 15, 2015

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon -
Charizard 0
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt +
Falco +
Fox +
Mr. Game & Watch +
Ganondorf +
Greninja 0
Ike +
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link 0
Little Mac 0
Lucario +
Luigi -
Mario -
Dr. Mario -
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight -
Ness -
Olimar +
Palutena +
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. +++++
Robin +
Rosalina +
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link +
Villager -
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi ---
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman +
Pacman +
Sonic 0
Ryu +
Roy 0
Mewtwo +
Lucas 0
Brawler 0
Swordfighter +
Gunner +
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My personal opinion, Rob is the easiest matchup for Little Mac because if he spams gyro you can use it for easy combos and he is huge target, easy jablock combos.

Yoshi is the hardest, because his custom move egg launch is your death at 0% (yes we play with customs in my country) (Finland)

shinhed-echi · Nov 16, 2015

Given what I've faced, I'd say:

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon 0
Charizard +
Diddy Kong 0
Donkey Kong +
Duck Hunt 0
Falco +
Fox +
Mr. Game & Watch +
Ganondorf +
Greninja -
Ike 0
Jigglypuff -
King Dedede 0
Kirby -
Link -
Little Mac 0
Lucario +
Luigi 0
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth 0
Lucina +
Metaknight 0
Ness 0
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach 0
Zelda +
R.O.B. +
Robin 0
Rosalina 0
Samus 0
Sheik -
Shulk - - - - - - -
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer 0
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman 0
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy 0
Mewtwo 0
Lucas 0
Brawler 0
Swordfighter +
Gunner 0
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Alright, I swear I don't know how everyone deals with Shulk, but as Mac, I get comboed to kindgom's come, and there´s just no way around him for me.

I agree that ROB is easier once you get the hang of him.

I think Pacman can go either way, but I'm sure Sonic can grab, throw us, and edgeguard us easily.

Abbey Street · Nov 18, 2015

Used to play a lot of Mac, so let's see

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Bowser 0
Bowser Jr +
Captain Falcon 0
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt +
Falco +
Fox +
Mr. Game & Watch +
Ganondorf 0
Greninja -
Ike 0
Jigglypuff 0
King Dedede +
Kirby +
Link -
Little Mac K0
Lucario 0
Luigi 0
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth 0
Lucina +
Metaknight 0
Ness 0
Olimar ?
Palutena +
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit -
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. +
Robin +
Rosalina -
Samus +
Sheik -
Shulk 0
Toon Link 0
Villager -
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer +
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman -
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu -
Roy 0
Mewtwo +
Lucas -
Brawler 0
Swordfighter 0
Gunner ?
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CaliforniaSoul · Nov 18, 2015

My personal opinion, Rob is the easiest matchup for Little Mac because if he spams gyro you can use it for easy combos and he is huge target, easy jablock combos.

Yoshi is the hardest, because his custom move egg launch is your death at 0% (yes we play with customs in my country) (Finland)[/QUOTE]

Rob....easy match up? Never heard that before lol that is one of my hardest match ups.

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr -
Captain Falcon 0
Charizard 0
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong -
Duck Hunt 0
Falco 0
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch +
Ganondorf +
Greninja -
Ike 0
Jigglypuff 0
King Dedede 0
Kirby -
Link -
Little Mac 0
Lucario 0
Luigi -
Mario -
Dr. Mario 0
Marth 0
Lucina 0
Metaknight -
Ness -
Olimar 0
Palutena 0
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach -
Zelda 0
R.O.B. -
Robin -
Rosalina -
Samus -
Sheik -
Shulk 0
Toon Link -
Villager -
Wario -
Wii Fit Trainer 0
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus 0
Megaman -
Pacman -
Sonic 0
Ryu 0
Roy 0
Mewtwo -
Lucas 0
Brawler
Swordfighter
Gunner
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Incoleo · Nov 22, 2015

Hey little mac board!! Here's your voting totals ouo

Zareidriel

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Bowser ++++=+

Bowser Jr ==+++-

Captain Falcon ++-===

Charizard ++=++=

Diddy Kong ==-=--

Donkey Kong ++=+=-

Duck Hunt -=+=+=

Falco +++++=

Fox +++++-

Mr. Game & Watch =+++++

Ganondorf ++++=+

Greninja =-=---

Ike +++===

Jigglypuff --+-==

King Dedede ==+=+=

Kirby -=+-+-

Link --=---

Little Mac ======

Lucario =+++==

Luigi ==-==-

Mario =-----

Dr. Mario +=-===

Marth +=+===

Lucina =++++=

Metaknight -=-==-

Ness ==-==-

Olimar ==+==

Palutena +++++=

Pikachu ------

Pit & Dark Pit --==-=

Peach --==--

Zelda +++++=

R.O.B. --+++-

Robin -=+=+-

Rosalina -=+=--

Samus ==+=+-

Sheik ------

Shulk +++-==

Toon Link ==+==-

Villager ------

Wario =====-

Wii Fit Trainer ==+=+=

Yoshi =-----

Zero Suit Samus =----=

Megaman ==+==-

Pacman --+==-

Sonic ===--=

Ryu +=+=-=

Roy +=====

Mewtwo ==+=+-

Lucas ====-=

Brawler =====

Swordfighter ++++=

Gunner ==+=

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jet56 · Nov 23, 2015

while the results are a tad inaccurate as to what the matchups actually are, i love the fact that its a reference for little mac players, to view the good and bad matchups they have.

Zoramine Fae · Nov 25, 2015

As a fellow Mac main, although with only about 450 matches into Mac as of today, I can probably put in some decent input (and a small description for why, or I'll just make a note saying I don't have any input as I don't face said character enough.) I might have bad opinions, but don't shoot me over them.

Here's how I put it:
+3: Almost guaranteed win as long as you know what you are doing as your character. Rarely occurs, ever.
+2: A rather easy matchup where the opponent will struggle to win but can still do so with a bit of luck.
+1: A winnable matchup for either side, with a slight advantage to Mac.
0: Even matchup for both sides.
-1: A winnable matchup for either side, with a slight disadvantage to Mac.
-2: A difficult matchup for Mac, but still winnable with a random FSmash here and there.
-3: An impossible to win matchup. Rarely occurs, ever.

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Bowser : +2. Just keep throwing out hitboxes against the *******, and his large hitbox will just keep soaking up attacks. He does have his powerful Forward Throw and Up B out of shield, but you also have Super Armor for every other attack. Bowser also has a bit of issues approaching (coming from a guy who has learned Bowser a bit recently, maybe I'm wrong), so Mac can do as he pleases. Being a heavyweight also doesn't help getting hit by UTilt and DTilt strings.

Bowser Jr : ?? No input here, I never face any decent Bowser Jr.s to have an opinion on the matchup. I'd think it'd probably be 0 or +1, considering Mechakoopas can control the ground but Bowser Jr. doesn't really have any safe moves to use against Mac.

Captain Falcon : -1. Dash grab is really frustrating to deal with, and the fact Falcon can use BAir to heavily punish anything that he wants to makes it a bit annoying. Falcon also has his Up Tilt to spike Macs that are forced into using Up B and can use Down Tilt to whack Macs that have to recover with Side B. Mac does have the nice bit of being able to keep Falcon out with Dtilt, UTilt, and Jab, but once he gets in its annoying. TLDR: Every character that can approach decently has a chance at beating Mac. lol.

Charizard : +1. Charizard hates having his massive hitbox considering Mac moves using his Smash attacks. It also doesn't help that it makes him have a larger hitbox to be hit by KO Punch by, but Charizard also has the ability to chuck Mac off and can Super Armor through Mac's Super Armor with Rock Smash, which can be annoying for both sides.

Diddy Kong : -2. Considering every Diddy Kong I have faced so far happens to be an actually decent one, I can say that almost for sure Mac has quite a bit of difficulties with this matchup. Diddy has Banannas to pester Mac, FAir and BAir to annoy the crap out of him if Mac is forced into aerial combat, and has Hoo-Hah to combo him to hell and back. Mac's best bet is to keep shielding the banannas and punishing whenever there is an opportunity, but one missed punish can quickly result in a **** ton of damage.

Donkey Kong : -2. ****ing cargo throw. 'Nuff said from me.

Duck Hunt : ?? Never faced a good Duck Hunt. Rarely see them as is.

Falco : ??. Not enough experience in the matchup, I have faced a few good Falcos however. Fun matches.

Fox : 0. Fox can approach whenever he wants to imo, and can spam lasers if you try playing defensively. He also has combos off grabs which can frustrate the crap out of a Mac player, but Fox has to watch out for smash attacks which can kill him rather early if he isn't careful since his weight isn't that great.

Mr. Game & Watch : ??. Haven't fought a good G&W before, going to fight a friend to get an opinion on this sometime soon.

Ganondorf : ??. Need experience in the matchup.

Greninja : ??. No real opinion here.

Ike : +0. Ike has some strong moves at his disposal and can be rather hard to deal with sometimes, but Mac's Super Armor can go straight through every move Ike has, considering most of them either have long ending lag or long landing lag, and the few that don't are either weak or Back Air. Once again, close (as in, I'd say like 52.5/47.5 in Mac's favor), but it can go either way no matter what.

Jigglypuff : +3. I don't think this needs explanation, but really weak to smash attacks, no really great moves outside of aerials which are predictable and can be shielded, and just dies at 10% to KO Punch.

King Dedede : ??. Never faced a good King Dedede.

Kirby : 0. Mac can smash Kirby into a million pieces with Smash Attacks, but that's literally it for his advantages. Kirby has combo throws, the command grab in Inhale, and probably the most annoying ability to recover in the game, in addition to the fact he can literally jump all over mac then Down Air into an Up Tilt string.

Link : -1. Link has a bunch of projectiles, i.e. Mac's worst enemy but is slow and rather weak to strings, so Mac can get in some damage before being walled out again. It's ALMOST even, but I'd say as a Link secondary that Mac does lose out just barely only because of his wall of projectiles and his throw combos (i.e. DThrow into Up Smash or Up Tilt.)

Little Mac : -5000. Mac dittos are the WORST.

Lucario : ??. I haven't faced any good Lucarios. Ever. As any character.

Luigi : -1. If Luigi gets a grab in, have fun getting combo'd to hell and back, or just getting gimped because of how many attacks Luigi can throw out. But it's still a winnable matchup, since Luigi dies earlier than a bunch of other characters if he ever gets hit by a FSmash or USmash first frame.

Mario : -2. Mario has combo strings, a projectile, the invincible and stupid Up Smash, and the legendary Cape to **** over Mac's recovery. Mac, on the other hand, has FSmash. Guess which one wins.

Dr. Mario : 0. Doc still has the Cape, a better Bair, and a slightly better Down B in other matchups, but Mac can get in more damage due to Doc's weight, is slower and has a harder time approaching Mac than Mario does. He also puts a bit less pressure on the shield since his grabs don't really do much outside of having UAir followups (? Not sure on this)

Marth : ??. No Input. If asked, I'll provide some for Marth and Lucina, but tbh I really don't know for this.

Lucina : ??. No Input.

Metaknight : ??. Never fought a good Meta Knight.

Ness : -1. Yes, Ness isn't THAT bad. Sure, he has PK Fire, PK Thunder, Fair, and Back Throw that Macs have to deal with. On the other hand, Macs can powershgiel dPK Fire, shield PK Thunder, simply attempt to avoid getting trapped in a FAir combo by doing a random DI when the Down Throw you, and you can DI and mixup your recovery slightly if you get Back Throwed. It's not as bad of a matchup as people say it is.

Olimar : ...HOW DO YOU FIGHT THIS THING

Palutena : ??. Don't fight any good Palu's, honestly. ;-;

Pikachu : -2. Pikachu can spam out projectiles, can Quick Attack cancel all over Mac's face, and has the only downside being slightly lighter than much of the cast. So, quite an annoying matchup. Also, Pika's Down Smash catches rolls like nobody's business.

Pit & Dark Pit : -1 and -2. Pit and Pittoo both can grab and throw Mac offstage, and have multihit aerials that can catch his spotdodges if he isn't careful. He has Guardian Orbitars to force Mac's recovery to be even worse than it already is, Super Armor in Side B, and a great projectile in their Bows. Pittoo honestly has a minimally better matchup because instead of having his side B kill, it launches Mac offstage and offers gimping opportunities.

Peach : ??. Read below, except replace the better princess with the crappy one that gets captured by a turtle alot.

Zelda : ??. Never fought a decent Zelda.

R.O.B. : ??. Never see this guy, which is sad because R.O.B probably wins this matchup heavily.

Robin : ??. Never have faced an actually decent Robin.

Rosac*nt : -3. The only truly 'Unwinnable' matchup in my opinion unless the Rosalina is REALLY crappy. Luma can space you out with jabs, Rosalina has her Up Air, Down Air, Neutral Air, every single grab and throw, Forward Smash, Up Smash, and Down Smash for Mac to worry about, and the best thing Mac can do is attempt to force Rosalina to approach and try to punish, which is difficult considering Luma exists.

Samus : FG Samus: -1. Regular Samus: No opinion.

Sheik : -2. Sheik just ****s all over most of the cast, and the fact she can FAir string Mac to death like every other character doesn't really help out.

Shulk : ??. Never faced a good Shulk, sadly.

Toon Link : ??. Never faced a good Tink. I'd guess its similar to the regular Link, except worse.

Villager : -2. Villager keeps Mac out with projectiles, can ledge camp since Mac has no offstage game, and in general can just slowly rack up damage before screwing Mac over with a well-timed smash attack.

Wario : ??. Never face Warios, either.

Wii Fit Trainer : ??. Never face WFTs.

Yoshi : 0. Yoshi only ties since, while he is pretty much rushdown, I find that Mac actually has a decent time against them due to predictable recoveries (almost) allowing for some punishes, being able to predict and powershield the only projectile, and the fact Yoshi's grab isn't instant. Otherwise, Yoshi just keeps throwing out hitboxes against Mac and Mac just throws out his own.

Zero Suit Samus : ...No input, but probably -2 based on experience.

Megaman : ??. MEGA SPAM. And never faced a good one before.

Pacman : ??. Not faced a good Pacman before.

Sonic : -1. Sonic just runs all around Mac (who gets lucky to land a smash attack) and has Back Throw to fling him offstage and some good aerials to keep him off it. His recovery is quite bad against Down Smash, though, and his Spin Dash can be stopped by Jabs.

Ryu : ??. I'd guess it'd be in Ryu's favor based on comboing, but T'heck if I know.

Roy : 0. Roy has some issues approaching Mac, while Mac has issues getting in against Roy. Both characters can get offensive extremely quickly with smash attacks, Roy also having a grab combo game and Mac having Armor for against approaches. I'd say its even, though I need a bit more good Roys to play against before I can actually say that's probably true.

Mewtwo : +2. Mewtwo doesn't do really that much against Mac and Mac loves floaty characters with large hitboxes.

Lucas : 0. This might get some people mad at me or start a war, but Lucas would BARELY win against Mac in my opinion after facing a few good ones. Lucas has great spacing tools in PK Fire, FAir, Jabs, and a tether grab into a decent combo game. Mac has super armor to get through most of Lucas's smash attacks, many of Lucas's Smash attacks are either a tad bit slow, predictable, or are both, and can poke Lucas's recovery if the Mac can recover from its distance.

All of the Miis: ... I never play against them, sadly, so I have no clue of the matchup.
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...Did I do this right or did I add to much info? ;-;

Abbey Street · Nov 27, 2015

Zoramine Fae said:
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Bowser Jr : ?? No input here, I never face any decent Bowser Jr.s to have an opinion on the matchup. I'd think it'd probably be 0 or +1, considering Mechakoopas can control the ground but Bowser Jr. doesn't really have any safe moves to use against Mac.
Duck Hunt : ?? Never faced a good Duck Hunt. Rarely see them as is.
Falco : ??. Not enough experience in the matchup, I have faced a few good Falcos however. Fun matches.
Mr. Game & Watch : ??. Haven't fought a good G&W before, going to fight a friend to get an opinion on this sometime soon.
Ganondorf : ??. Need experience in the matchup.
Greninja : ??. No real opinion here.
King Dedede : ??. Never faced a good King Dedede.
Lucario : ??. I haven't faced any good Lucarios. Ever. As any character.
Marth : ??. No Input. If asked, I'll provide some for Marth and Lucina, but tbh I really don't know for this.
Lucina : ??. No Input.
Metaknight : ??. Never fought a good Meta Knight.
Palutena : ??. Don't fight any good Palu's, honestly. ;-;
Peach : ??. Read below, except replace the better princess with the crappy one that gets captured by a turtle alot.
Zelda : ??. Never fought a decent Zelda.
R.O.B. : ??. Never see this guy, which is sad because R.O.B probably wins this matchup heavily.
Robin : ??. Never have faced an actually decent Robin.
Samus : FG Samus: -1. Regular Samus: No opinion.
Shulk : ??. Never faced a good Shulk, sadly.
Toon Link : ??. Never faced a good Tink. I'd guess its similar to the regular Link, except worse.
Wario : ??. Never face Warios, either.
Wii Fit Trainer : ??. Never face WFTs.
Megaman : ??. MEGA SPAM. And never faced a good one before.
Pacman : ??. Not faced a good Pacman before.
Ryu : ??. I'd guess it'd be in Ryu's favor based on comboing, but T'heck if I know.
All of the Miis: ... I never play against them, sadly, so I have no clue of the matchup.
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Alright, I'll see if I can help you out on some o' these.

Bowser Jr.: A hella weird character that I haven't faced often either, but I think it's a 0 because he can control the stage super well vs us but is sorta slow and reliant on cheap tricks. Edgeguarding Mac is effortless for him, sadly, but he gets punished onstage in return, especially with his laggy specials.
Duck Hunt: 0 or +1. Chances are you'll be fast asleep before either character loses a stock because that's Duck Hunt for you. He has trouble getting us off once we're in though.
Falco: 0. Kinda slow, but has great boxing and frame data, and unlike Fox doesn't suck offstage so chances are he'll go for gimps. Isn't great at killing onstage though and is also light meaning we can kill him pretty early with smashes.
Game&Watch: +1 or +2. Straight up too light, easy to abuse super armor against, and his Up B can be met with an Dsmash.
Ganondorf: Both sides think the MU is in their favor, but it's close to even because it's so volatile; the smarter player (aka who gets the first hit) will most likely take first stock, and if one has rage...oh boy. I'd go 0 here, because Ganon disposes of Mac effortlessly offstage. Use your speed to bait out his laggy moves though and you'll win, but if you can't tech a Flame Choke you might be done for regardless. Do not attempt a DSmash edgeguard.
Greninja: -1 or -2 imo, but I am not very well-versed here. Treat this MU like Sheik. Beware of aerial approaches (especially NAir) and grabs. Powershields are bae. Due to his fall speed he is susceptible to strings. However the trade off is that we should be fearing for our life the moment we get so much as a tiny bit offstage.
King Dedede: +1 or +2 to Little Mac, but if you don't know what to do, you're going to get bodied. If you try to play footsies with Dedede, he will beat you with his obnoxious disjoints. Use your speed to bait, punish, and go deep on him.
Lucario: +0. Abuse super armor to the best of your ability, you HAVE to take first stock in this MU. You do NOT want to lose a stock and have to face a Lucario with aura + rage because Mac is in KO range as low as 20%. Fortunately Luke's frame data isn't great on the ground, and he doesn't hurt much in the air w/o aura.
Marth: +1. Marth w/o his tippers will have difficulty taking us out due to his relative lack of shield pressure. Mix up approaches so that you can try to bait Marth into to going for a tipper tilt/smash or something and leave him exposed. Unfortunately, Marth has a good grab and edgeguards, but this can be countered by smart play.
Lucina: 0. Like Marth but actually has an answer to Mac's close-up game in the form of even attacks that are safe on block (no more sourspots). Can go offense or defense depending on your playstyle, and like Marth can easily gimp. Lack of onstage kill options hurt her though.
Meta Knight: -1 probably, but I have not played this matchup either outside of FG. You outrange him but if he gets in it can be a pain in the ass to deal with him. Can probably DI / NAir out of his zero-to-death combo easily, but he will most likely push you offstage instead to gimp. MK will most often be in the air vs you so Utilts, up-angled FSmashes and pivot tilts could be your best friend.
Palutena: +1. It's difficult for her to kill you at all without a grab. However, the same is true the other way around. Go in at low %s, when you hit high %s / rage play more footsies as to more easily avoid her most potent attacks. Try to recover low if possible due to windbox on her FSmash along with her other gimp tools.
Peach: maybe -1. Peach's FAir hurts like hell and can be spaced very easily with her crouch-float. Turnips can also be a huge pain. DSmash edgeguard doesn't work well on her. Nonetheless, you should try playing a mix-up heavy, hit-and-run style that chips away at her health until you're confident a Smash can finish her off. Try to recover low vs her as well.
Zelda: +1. Stay onstage, With Mac's speed you should be able to outdamage pretty hard with footsies lest you get grabbed (Zelda's grab range is bad, however). Mac can one-shot the phantom easily with an FSmash. It's hard to get the smart Mac offstage because of Zelda's lack of reliable strings, but she is much more of a threat offstage than Palutena or Peach.
R.O.B.: -1 or even -2 probably. Mac will have to approach in this MU. He has coverage for many of Little Mac's options while pestering him from afar, not to mention the constant threat of the Beep Boop. If you can powershield / abuse super armor well, you will be golden. Find a way in on R.O.B and you can probably juggle/string him for a good long while until he tries getting comfortable again.
Robin: Probably bout 0. It's a battle of wits; if you are impatient you will get burned so plan your approach carefully. Mac's frame 2 NAir allows him to get out of some sticky situations with Robin's specials, but it's the Levin Sword that will hurt the most with huge, lingering, disjointed hitboxes. Robin is incredibly susceptible to strings if you get in, however.
Samus: Online ones are a pain in the ass and require vigilance. Offline Samus players...probably looking at +2 because her KO moves are very unreliable. Haven't seen very many though, so I'm mostly winging it. Side B will be a real useful move here.
Shulk: 0. Poor frame data that is abused outside Speed mode, however near unfightable in it if the Shulk is good. If he goes Buster then Mac can easily turn it against him. Beware disjoints and gimps.
Toon Link: 0, but I'm winging it here again. All in all, an annoying little runt, but he's not unbeatable. He gets easy setups on Mac with bombs so powershielding is key. Hard to combo because he is so floaty. Only real onstage kill threat is FSmash. Will play very annoying to win so a cool head will be needed.
Wii Fit Trainer: +2. WFTs willingly offer you stage control to go retreat to the edge. They'll have a very hard time hitting you. While they camp at the ledge, look for chances to punish regrab with DSmash. Don't take too many sunballs either.
Mega Man: A definite -1. Lemon spam can be hard to get around, and he can peace out of most strings with Up B. Can also gimp easily with his aerials. and possesses strong shieldgrab game. However, he's got bad, punishable frame data on the ground, and can also be DSmashed out of his recovery.
Pac-Man: 0, maybe +1. The one Mac MU I have literally never played. Stay vigilant, don't fall for his bonus fruit and/or hydrant shenanigans and you'll be just fine.
Ryu: Probably about -1 but my experience isn't plentiful. This guy. THIS. GUY. He will kill you at 50 so don't get hit by Focus Attack. Although you get a lot of strings in this matchup, you do have to respect his recovery, projectiles and, in the case of his smashes, his range.

Zoramine Fae · Nov 27, 2015

Alright, I regret not adding in a few MUs that I actually have faced, but completely forgot about since they were in the bottom of my replay list (I save every match I get against a good player for review, especially for when I practice said character I was fighting):

Toon Link: -1 or 0, actually. Against a GOOD Toon Link that can keep the pressure on Mac, you will have a hard-fought match ahead of you no matter how hard you try. If he racks up enough damage, Forward Smash or Up Smash can kill you and he has great aerials to punish you if you try jumping at all, even offstage or just using Jolt Haymaker. He does have issues if you know how to dodge everything that Tink has, but since he can just fling Boomerang, Bomb, then jab tether grab you if you try rolling away, he's pretty damn frustrating to fight.

OFFLINE Samus: 0. Recently had a bout against a good friend and decent Samus and Little Mac player (I was learning Samus, and still am, right now). Samus's tether grab, when flung downwards, seems to get me stuck into FAirs a lot of the time, and Missile/Charge Shot spam can get annoying to get through, but Samus lacks any good killing options outside of a lucky FSmash or fully charged Charge Shot, which is next to impossible to get unless you knock a Mac offstage. Mac has Armor and actual kill moves, but Samus can somewhat space with air tether.

R.O.B.: Agreeing with -2. Gyros are great stage control against Mac and Beep Bop alongside Robo Lasers can keep Mac on his toes, and his Down Smash, which launches really awkwardly a ton of the time, can really hurt if you DI the wrong way and get sent offstage. The fact R.O.B's FAir comes out frame 6, compared to Mac's best get-back-to-stage-horizontally tool Jolt Haymaker at its EARLIEST coming out Frame 9 for the damage, R.O.B has quite a few annoying things. Mac, like in every other matchup, really only has Super Armor in his favor.

jazaniac · Dec 5, 2015

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Bowser +
Bowser Jr 0
Captain Falcon 0
Charizard +
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong 0
Duck Hunt -
Falco -
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch 0
Ganondorf +
Greninja -
Ike +
Jigglypuff 0
King Dedede 0
Kirby -
Link 0
Little Mac 0
Lucario 0
Luigi -
Mario -
Dr. Mario -
Marth 0
Lucina 0
Metaknight -
Ness -
Olimar 0
Palutena +
Pikachu -
Pit & Dark Pit 0
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin -
Rosalina -
Samus 0
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link -
Villager 0
Wario 0
Wii Fit Trainer -
Yoshi 0
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman -
Pacman 0
Sonic -
Ryu 0
Roy 0
Mewtwo 0
Lucas -
Brawler 0
Swordfighter +
Gunner 0
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jazaniac · Dec 5, 2015

shinhed-echi said:
Given what I've faced, I'd say:

Alright, I swear I don't know how everyone deals with Shulk, but as Mac, I get comboed to kindgom's come, and there´s just no way around him for me.

I agree that ROB is easier once you get the hang of him.

Shulk's attacks have a stupid amount of lag on almost all of them. Just bait out a move and punish it.

Also, how does one deal with ROB? I've been having problems with that matchup since day one.

Zoramine Fae · Dec 6, 2015

jazaniac said:
Shulk's attacks have a stupid amount of lag on almost all of them. Just bait out a move and punish it.

Also, how does one deal with ROB? I've been having problems with that matchup since day one.

For against good R.O.Bs, just be as patient as you possibly can. Gyros dissapear instantly upon shielding, and if you get the timing down and the luck to do so powershielding lasers is great. If they attempt to use Side-B, just shield constantly until you see the final hit, then turn in that direction and down tilt into FSmash/just FSmash if they are at a high percent. Concerning his many grabs, just dodge as best of your ability. Same goes for his tilts and aerials - if you DO get grabbed, especially into a Beep Bop, just DI differently each and every time in order to screw them up. I've found that high inwards DI gets them quite a bit for some reason, since they think you will DI away.

MintyBreeze · Dec 6, 2015

Part of me thinks Charizard is more of an even match-up than a + for Little Mac, mostly because Charizard has really good grabs and jabs with long range. In that match-up, make sure you shield the jabs and remember it's a three part combo. At high percents it launches Little Mac into the air, too, so if you're hit, fast fall and try to avoid the N-Air or F-Air.
Also, on Flare Blitz, I actually wouldn't bother countering it - Flare Blitz has a weak initial hit before the explosion, and since that's what's countered, it's not as optimal a punish as just shielding and giving a smash attack. Charizard's probably going to try and grab you to A) get you in the air for a F-Air, B) throw you off the edge, or C) do an Up-Throw and kill you, which works at about 120 - 130 % on FD.

Charizard, like you, is a hard hitting character who relies on reads to get the kill, but unless they want to get comboed into oblivion or thrown off the stage, can't be reckless. Also, just as an extra thing! Charizard's F-Smash has invulnerability or superarmor at certain frames, I think when it's hitting. Don't challenge that move, it's dumb against counters.

Deleted member · Dec 16, 2015

Here's my opinion: