L33thal
Smash Apprentice
I feel like Marth doesn't have really solid tools for moving forward and claiming stage position, compared to the other top tiers.
D-tilt is good for poking on the ground, but your opponent can place good aerials to counter that. The hitboxes of aerials also outrange run up grab or dash dance grab.
Nair/double fair in place put out hitboxes but you usually have to deal with your opponent rushing you after you do them and Marths tend to dash back after doing those. Same goes for retreating double fair.
It feels like the only reliable tools besides d-tilt are to do late fair into dash forward (which imo is easy to mis-space), weird rising fairs (rewardable if you place them well and if your opponent can't CC at higher percents), or to dash past/under your opponent. Otherwise, it seems like Marth has to rely a lot on baiting and making use of his long dash and grab range to capitalize on when your opponent moves forward when you move backwards. But if your opponent's character has really good stage control, then you find yourself with less and less room to run.
This might seem really obvious or even completely wrong and dumb but any thoughts on this?
D-tilt is good for poking on the ground, but your opponent can place good aerials to counter that. The hitboxes of aerials also outrange run up grab or dash dance grab.
Nair/double fair in place put out hitboxes but you usually have to deal with your opponent rushing you after you do them and Marths tend to dash back after doing those. Same goes for retreating double fair.
It feels like the only reliable tools besides d-tilt are to do late fair into dash forward (which imo is easy to mis-space), weird rising fairs (rewardable if you place them well and if your opponent can't CC at higher percents), or to dash past/under your opponent. Otherwise, it seems like Marth has to rely a lot on baiting and making use of his long dash and grab range to capitalize on when your opponent moves forward when you move backwards. But if your opponent's character has really good stage control, then you find yourself with less and less room to run.
This might seem really obvious or even completely wrong and dumb but any thoughts on this?
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