Marth VS Fox Matchup break down

[ep1c_marf]

Ok guys lets face it more and more people main fox every week and they just keep getting more and more technical. So I just want to discuss what everyone does in the fox match up. So please if you have any kind of input please post it. So I want to know what you guys do in the following situations.
-how do you approach fox
-how do you deal w constant shffl'd moves to shine on your shield
-what do you guys to to avoid getting shine spiked after fox knocks you off the ledge
-what kind of tricks do you use against fox
-what stages to you strike, ban, counter pick against fox

 

[knightpraetor]

1. zone (dtilt, fair grab, dash attack), bait (nair in place and retreating for the AC). When forced to approach, dtilt, sh forward if they are out of stage space, grab, dash attack. Just dashdance like god, be aware of his full hop options too though. i like nair for getting them off platforms at low percents, if they are in mid or higher percents i usually just link a fair or upair into a death combo.

2. attempt to move between iterations..if they spam shine like that take it airborne so you land instantly with no stun.

3. risk going low a lot while making sure to be horizontally spaced enough that the fox can't drop shine me when he grabs the ledge with invuln.

4. who needs tricks, you have a sword.

5. stage pref for me is probably FD > YS > FoD > Battlefield > Stadium > Dreamland. But they don't seem to make much difference outside of FD and Dreamland