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marth takes focus

legion598

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marth takes alot more focus then any of my other mains it seems to me that if i loose focus at all i get ***** but if im in focus i do all the ****** its like the only way to play him is to be in the zone at all times because i cannot play with him casually like i can with other mains but when in the zone hes like the best character ever :lick:
 

PaintedGhost

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That was one LONG sentance, but yeah, Marth rules... Did you know Marths tiara > Falcon Punch? :O (Thats right I went there.)
 

Nibbity

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lol I believe there was a thread of Marth's manliness. But yes, while talking to my friends, I got the surprising discovery of seeing my friends don't think half as much as I do while playing the game as Falco, MK, or Pit. I'm normally contemplating options while they can just sort of do this, and then smash, etc.
 

jinofcoolnes

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marth takes alot more focus then any of my other mains it seems to me that if i loose focus at all i get ***** but if im in focus i do all the ****** its like the only way to play him is to be in the zone at all times because i cannot play with him casually like i can with other mains but when in the zone hes like the best character ever :lick:
Marth is the best Man
 

DarkRunner00

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Well... its not really focus... but once in the zone -- Marth can ****... because when a combo can link to another combo, because you realized a follow up could be made... Marth *****...

Though, I've seen really nice Lucario combos and follow ups... just the other day actually... lucario knocked me off stage and gimped me cuz he comboed me all the way off screen...

Still because of Tip rewards... when Marth's in the zone its all about ****-age...
 

BacklashMarth

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Yes, marth does take focus, and practice, and training, and strategy.....etc. I could argue the same thing about other characters, but i dont think it takes focus to mash B (*cough* MK and Pit). A sucky marth can be ***** easier than most ppl by advanced players. However, a focused marth can be a formidable opponent (focus is how i get in my "dunking zone").
 

OmegaXF

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Yes, marth does take focus, and practice, and training, and strategy.....etc. I could argue the same thing about other characters, but i dont think it takes focus to mash B (*cough* MK and Pit). A sucky marth can be ***** easier than most ppl by advanced players. However, a focused marth can be a formidable opponent (focus is how i get in my "dunking zone").
You forgot about wolf XD A sucky but spammy wolf can give u loads of trouble.
 

legion598

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i must say marths d-air spike has to be one of the funkiest/coolest moves in the game the hit lag from the tip makes it look like time freezes right before the opponent is sent to there unavoidable doom. when i land it it makes me want to fall to my knees and cry from the beauty and when i land the d-air spike to dolphin slash lvl spike it blows my mind and causes brain damage
 

DarkRunner00

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i must say marths d-air spike has to be one of the funkiest/coolest moves in the game the hit lag from the tip makes it look like time freezes right before the opponent is sent to there unavoidable doom. when i land it it makes me want to fall to my knees and cry from the beauty and when i land the d-air spike to dolphin slash lvl spike it blows my mind and causes brain damage
I've got to say... a backside Dair is the most epic kill ever...

Just because... it looks so funking awesome... since the backside is going an upward momentum... and is generally to the side...

God!!! and then... just a slight millisecond of frozen space... and then SPIKE baby SPIKE...

Coolest kill... (beside an off stage, Fair->Fair->Dolphin Slash...)
 

legion598

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^ lol marthcides are amazing its like u have the greatest aerials in the game but dont have to worry about marths low range recovery for one kill
 

GhettoSheep

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I really love when a character is recovering low, like a fox or something and you have marth hanging on the edge, and then you just ledge hop a dair to spike them from their recovery while you get back on the stage at the same time. It's so simple but so f***ing tight.

I also just love dolphin slash stage spikes in general. Like airdodge through them and then reverse DS to recover and stage spike them is beautiful.

Marth is just an incredibly satisfying character to use. Every kill is just bad ***
 

DarkRunner00

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Ghetto Sheep,

I've yet apply DS to stage spike, because it scares me that, I could possibly get edgehogged, gimped, etc.

How to you read a good DS or play it out so you you won't get screwd?
 

GhettoSheep

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You can go off the stage and if you see them go for the ledge you can stall with DB and your second jump and then when their invincibility runs out you can spike them from the ledge with your DS.

If they're in a worse situation, say without a second jump left then you just need to think about their leftover recovery options and time it right. Remember DS is pretty much one of the fastest moves in the game off stage (its one frame slower then fair coming out) and it makes you f***ing invincible during that lag anyways. So just be confidant in marth's off stage game, because it's really good. You are floaty, with plenty of time to stall, yet DS is practically instantaneous. Just be calm, and think about your options, you can always DS back onto the stage if you feel you need to abort for what ever reason. Your opponent should usually be the one who's scared off stage, not you.

Otherwise its just more of a situational thing and you have to be paying attention to see if your opponent gets themselves in a bad situation. There are usually better options for edge guarding or recovering and I would recommend those because they're safer, DS stage spike is really awesome but its not something you should rely on. Marth has much better off stage option than that usually.

Things to remember though:

-low percent Dair spike -> DS stage spike is very easy against a lot of characters because they will have to try and go straight for the stage to not die and will be very easy to read this way, just work on timing.

-first hit of DB then DS works very well, and if they airdodge that's fine because now you're on the ledge with your invincibility frames and your second jump back looking for a dair spike instead, or some other edge guard.

-don't be stupid and try this on somebody like MK or ROB because that just won't end well
 

Reptar On Ice

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I'd say he takes some focus-- at least from my experience. Whenever I play with non-Brawl music on I cannot play as good, rather then when I just play with Brawl music on. Although I've noticed I play worse with no music at all playing too, including SFX on brawl.
 

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i must say marths d-air spike has to be one of the funkiest/coolest moves in the game the hit lag from the tip makes it look like time freezes right before the opponent is sent to there unavoidable doom. when i land it it makes me want to fall to my knees and cry from the beauty and when i land the d-air spike to dolphin slash lvl spike it blows my mind and causes brain damage
I know, I love it, it is amazing, my best kill with Marth ever was this against MK, he had lost all jumps, I used it, and barely used Dolphin Slash to get back up. It was Beast-mazing!:):chuckle::p:laugh::lick:
 

legion598

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i usually score a ds stage spike without even planning it because the hit-box for it is exactly were your needing to recover from so i get it alot when they make the mistake of getting in the way of my recovery xD but ya u can plan it too i just usually dont
 
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