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Indeed. Marth has a higher learning curveIn the matchup of Marth vs Roy, good Marths beat good Roys, bad Roys beat bad Marths. Until Marth gets his spacing down, Roy can just charge in on the inside and Marth has no hope. But in matches like Sethlon vs M2K, M2K's marth can quite easily time the tippers perfectly to hold Roy off flawlessly.
This.I kind of want to know the opinions of the people who said that Roy is better, why exactly he is better. I don't want to sound harsh, I want to know what Roy has over Marth in addition to a much better killing ability
i respect this, however, go to training and test out Roy's "sweetspot" for yourself. I'm not exaggerating when I say it's extraordinary. One can actually be "tipper" range with Roy and still sweetspot. You don't necessarily have to fight inside as much as people seem to think with PM Roy.im gonna have to disagree with the marth having a higher learning curve comment. Roy has a lot of extremely rewarding, yet difficult to land sweetspots, and he is not as forgiving in the neutral game. Spacing is every bit as important with roy as it is with marth, and in a lot of cases, roys spacing can be considered advantageous, particularly when it comes to comboing and killing. Just because marth is a bit better in the neutral game, doesnt necessarily mean than his whole game is better. who is better really depends on the MU and the stage youre playing on. In PM, theres so much more diversity than in melee, so its hard to give a concrete answer. Marth definitely has his advantages, but roy also has clear advantages too, and which set of advantages will outshine the other is only going to be determined by considering all the other factors that are present in the game.
Glad you understand project m =/= melee. Quite a few characters have new tricks and this affects matchups across the board. Melee is great but this ain't thati mean i definitely expected it to happen. Its the same as how people still claim fox as god and say he has no disadvantageous MUs, and how everyone still thinks GW will be dead last on the tier list. Its all just due to "assuming melee," and not enough people are taking the time to factor in all the additional features project M has. Most of peoples arguments are valid in melee, but i just havent heard anyone really try to talk about differences and incorporate all these additional factors in this game, past melee.
I think the Fox god tier is just because noobs can SH2L after 2 months. The tier list is often based on a super low level. That is probably why Mario is god tier too.i mean i definitely expected it to happen. Its the same as how people still claim fox as god and say he has no disadvantageous MUs, and how everyone still thinks GW will be dead last on the tier list. Its all just due to "assuming melee," and not enough people are taking the time to factor in all the additional features project M has. Most of peoples arguments are valid in melee, but i just havent heard anyone really try to talk about differences and incorporate all these additional factors in this game, past melee.
You mean the guy who performs surgery with Marth when he needs to win a match-up on FD.People are really riding for Marth die hard but don't seem to understand that this new Roy is not a joke. I guess people won't understand until more and more people discover Roy. Maybe m2k should pickup Roy seriously
Far better edge guarding. While Marth has his d-tilt and d-smash, Roy's f-smash timed right before an enemy can grab the ledge is almost an instant KO. his n-B is also easy to guard with. Roy also has a easier time getting up onto a ledge and he is difficult to edge guard against.I kind of want to know the opinions of the people who said that Roy is better, why exactly he is better. I don't want to sound harsh, I want to know what Roy has over Marth in addition to a much better killing ability