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DISCLAIMER: This is just a thread for discussing future buffs that Marth enthusiasts want, and are not official.
If this is the wrong place to post this thread, please move it to the appropriate part of these forums. I thought posting a wishlist about Marth in the Marth Discussion Area was fitting.
Now, we all know that Marth and the clone, Lucina, are not doing very well in the competitive scene (last time I checked, at least.) The Version 1.0.8 patches set Marth and Lucina on the right track, but I think it is safe to say that it is not enough. Main problems are: An unreliable kill throw, a combo throw that sends opposing fighters miles away, a lackluster grab range, and pretty odd amounts of end/landing lag on various aerials and tilts. Seriously, Marth being forced to wait 28 frames (nearly half a second) of landing lag when landing with a Down Air is a bit ridiculous.
I am going to start the buff wishlist with my own ideas:
Jab 1:
If it isn't too broken, maybe reduce the amount of total frames to make follow ups from Jab 1 a little easier.
Up Tilt:
Tiny bit less ending lag.
Forward Tilt:
Less ending lag, maybe more active hitbox frames if less ending lag is not enough.
Forward Aerial:
Needs less ending and landing lag, maybe more frames of active hitboxes if you want to be generous.
Down Aerial:
A generous reduction in landing lag is totally acceptable, less total frames.
Standing, Dash, and Pivot Grabs:
Improvement in grab range, but make sure it is not too much.
Up Throw:
Greater knock back scaling and greater base knock back. Lets face it, it's frustrating when up throw doesn't kill.
Down Throw:
Drastically reduced base knock back. Maybe slight increase increased knock back scaling to balance the heavy "nerf" to base knock back. This allows down throw to become the glorious combo throw it deserves to be.
Reduced total frames in the throw animation to further make this throw a better combo starter.
If any of these break Marth, don't hesitate to say against said wished change. Just don't spout curses and such, it is not going to solve anything. I also did not forget about the potential waifu, Lucina. I will post more wishlists like this one on other character threads on the forums (If it is allowed, of course.)
If this is the wrong place to post this thread, please move it to the appropriate part of these forums. I thought posting a wishlist about Marth in the Marth Discussion Area was fitting.
Now, we all know that Marth and the clone, Lucina, are not doing very well in the competitive scene (last time I checked, at least.) The Version 1.0.8 patches set Marth and Lucina on the right track, but I think it is safe to say that it is not enough. Main problems are: An unreliable kill throw, a combo throw that sends opposing fighters miles away, a lackluster grab range, and pretty odd amounts of end/landing lag on various aerials and tilts. Seriously, Marth being forced to wait 28 frames (nearly half a second) of landing lag when landing with a Down Air is a bit ridiculous.
I am going to start the buff wishlist with my own ideas:
Jab 1:
If it isn't too broken, maybe reduce the amount of total frames to make follow ups from Jab 1 a little easier.
Up Tilt:
Tiny bit less ending lag.
Forward Tilt:
Less ending lag, maybe more active hitbox frames if less ending lag is not enough.
Forward Aerial:
Needs less ending and landing lag, maybe more frames of active hitboxes if you want to be generous.
Down Aerial:
A generous reduction in landing lag is totally acceptable, less total frames.
Standing, Dash, and Pivot Grabs:
Improvement in grab range, but make sure it is not too much.
Up Throw:
Greater knock back scaling and greater base knock back. Lets face it, it's frustrating when up throw doesn't kill.
Down Throw:
Drastically reduced base knock back. Maybe slight increase increased knock back scaling to balance the heavy "nerf" to base knock back. This allows down throw to become the glorious combo throw it deserves to be.
Reduced total frames in the throw animation to further make this throw a better combo starter.
If any of these break Marth, don't hesitate to say against said wished change. Just don't spout curses and such, it is not going to solve anything. I also did not forget about the potential waifu, Lucina. I will post more wishlists like this one on other character threads on the forums (If it is allowed, of course.)
