Mac's Ftilt: Kills Earlier when you only get the second hitbox.

[jet56]

I swear to god i am not pulling anyones leg when i am saying this.

LITTLE MAC'S FTILT KILLS EARLIER WHEN YOU ONLY GET THE SECOND HIT OF THE MOVE.

i tested this on multiple characters, all on FD, and i tested the kill percentages of the second move alone, and the two hit combo together.

On bowser, from the center of FD, the full ftilt will kill at about 161%. the second hitbox alone will kill at 158%. note this was in training mode, so rage is not a factor here, and neither is staling or freshness of a move. Also, you will get a distinguishable red bolt when you do the second move alone at an earlier percent than the 2 hit of ftilt.

I will try to get a vid up as soon as possible, but i thought this needed to get out there now.

How does this help mac? well, it means that spacing an ftilt is much more beneficial than just for spacing, as it also kills earlier. With rage, this could mean you could get a kill as early as 10% earlier than usual.

Test this in the lab. and if you know why this is the case, please let me know.

 

[8383d3 90 90 10 hundred]

interesting / weird

 

[PHYTO-1]

not weird at all. his moves have sweetspots at his glove. the first hit of ftilt pops them up and they get the arm hitbox.

other examples of glove sweetspot : fsmash, dair (only meteors at the sweetspot), nair (can be true combo'd if sweetspot)

 

[8383d3 90 90 10 hundred]

no kidding i didnt know about glove sweetspots. wow

thinking back it makes sense.

nair true combo into nair?

 

[PHYTO-1]

no kidding i didnt know about glove sweetspots. wow

thinking back it makes sense.

nair true combo into nair?

yea. nair to up b too or what have you

 

[Zoramine Fae]

Interesting. This makes retreating pivot Forward Tilts more useful, even if it is minimally helpful to knockback.

 

[jet56]

i was unaware that the glove of ftilt had a sweetspot for knockback. i knew about the Fsmash and other sourspots, but not the ftilt. still, if even i, a long standing mac main, was unaware of this, it's still worth mentioning.

 

[Zoramine Fae]

Did a short amount of fun with a friend and figured something out: Hitting both hits causes a sandbag to be launched higher, while the 2nd hitbox solo causes it to be launched lower. That might be the case.