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[mood4food77]

now i want my members to be this

i almost went for porygon-z as a special sweeper than i saw that i would have a pretty big fighting weakeness

i was suggestions on movesets and EV spreads but here's how it's most likely gonna look, also can i have the best nature for each poke

Naive Infernape (Life Orb)-mixed sweeper
128/128/252 (ATK/SP. ATK/SPD)
Close Combat
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot

Adamant Tyranitar (Choice Band/??) -Physical Sweeper
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Crunch
Outrage/Stone edge
EQ
DD/Stone Edge

Bold/Relaxed Cresselia (Lefties/??) -mixed tank
252/128/128 (HP/DEF/SP. DEF)
Rest
Sleep Talk
Psychic
Ice Beam


Bold Blissey (Leftovers) -special tank
252/252/6 (DEF/SP. DEF/HP)
Seismoc Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Ice Beam/T-wave

Brave/Relaxed Swampert (Lefties/??) -physical Sweeper
252/252/6 (ATK/DEF/HP)
Avalanche
Hammer Arm
EQ
Curse


Timid Gengar (Choice Specs) -special sweeper
252/252/6 (SP. ATK/SPD/HP)
Shadow ball
psychic
thunderbolt
Focus Blast


anyways, can you guys help me out?

Thank you ILOVECELEBII!!208, Wii4Mii 99, Chill, french fri, Shiri, commonyoshi

 

[9Kplus1]

now i want my members to be this

i almost went for porygon-z as a special sweeper than i saw that i would have a pretty big fighting weakeness

i was suggestions on movesets and EV spreads but here's how it's most likely gonna look, also can i have the best nature for each poke

Infernape-mixed sweeper @ Choice Scarf
128/128/252 (ATK/SP. ATK/SPD)
Close Combat
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Calm Mind

Tyranitar-Physical Sweeper @Choice Band
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Crunch
Outrage
EQ
DD

Cresselia-mixed tank @Big Root
252/128/128 (HP/DEF/SP. DEF)
Moonlight
Calm Mind
Psychic
Lunar Dance

don't know shiz bout her

Blissey-special tank @Leftovers
252/252/6 (DEF/SP. DEF/HP)
Seismoc Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

Thunder Wave

Swampert-physical sweeper @Life Orb
252/252/6 (DEF/SP. DEF/ HP)
Avalanche
Hammer Arm
Curse
EQ

don't know much bout him either

Gengar-special sweeper @Choice Specs
252/252/6 (SP. ATK/SPD/HP)
Shadow ball
Focus Blast
thunderbolt
Psychic


anyways, can you guys help me out?

Changes in Bold, you need to list the natures and Items.

 

[mood4food77]

i asked for best natures...since i don't have them memorized, besides bold and adamant

forgot about items...besides i didn't know which ones to put on them anyways...

tahnks for your help

just wondering, why avalanche over waterfall on swampert, since waterfall stabbed is 120 base power now, and it's not resisted by much (only grass resists it)

and why t-wave over ice beam

ice beam has better type coverage

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

i asked for best natures...since i don't have them memorized, besides bold and adamant

forgot about items...besides i didn't know which ones to put on them anyways...

tahnks for your help

just wondering, why avalanche over waterfall on swampert, since waterfall stabbed is 120 base power now, and it's not resisted by much (only grass resists it)


and why t-wave over ice beam

ice beam has better type coverage

Avalanche has 60 base power, but that is doubled if the Avalanche Pokemon is attacked first during the turn. With Curse, not only will Avalanche do more damage because it's Physical (Curse raises Attack), but Curse will lower Swampert's Speed, allowing for a bigger chance of going last. Hammer Arm can also lower Speed. Ice, Fighting, and Ground has good type coverage.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

ok, thank you

what about blissey? Ice beam or t-wave?

and is tyranitar going to hurt my team cause of it's sandstream

 

[frenchfri]

Infernape-mixed sweeper
128/128/252 (ATK/SP. ATK/SPD)
Close Combat
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Calm Mind

Nasty Plot > Calm Mind, since Infernape doesn't really care about its defenses. Nature should be either Naive or the one that's +Speed/-Def. EV Spread needs some work, since I doubt you need that much Atk when you'll only be using it on Blissey mainly. Life Orb makes a good hold item.

Tyranitar-Physical Sweeper
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Crunch
Outrage
EQ
DD

Dragon moves have crap type coverage, so put Stone Edge over Outrage. IIRC, Crunch/EQ/Stone Edge hits everything for atleast neutral. Leftovers is a good item choice. Adamant nature.

Cresselia-mixed tank
252/128/128 (HP/DEF/SP. DEF)
Moonlight
Calm Mind
Psycic
Lunar Dance

Ice Beam over Psychic, so you won't be completely ***** by Dark types, and it makes Cresselia a nice Garchomp counter. Since you have TTar on your team, Moonlight is going to suck thanks to Sandstorm, so I'd recommend a Rest/Sleep Talk set in this case. Bold nature, since you already have Blissey to soak up most of the special hits.

Blissey-special tank
252/252/6 (DEF/SP. DEF/HP)
Seismoc Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Ice Beam/T-wave

You don't need to put any EVs into her Special Defense, since it really doesn't make much of a difference. If you run T-wave over Ice Beam, you'll be screwed against all Ghosts, so remember that. Bold nature here.

Swampert-physical Sweeper
252/252/6 (ATK/DEF/HP)
Avalanche/Waterfall
Hammer Arm
EQ
Curse

Waterfall/Avalanche/EQ/Curse would be best here. Since you'll be Cursing, get close to 252 HP EVs, most of the rest in Defense, and maybe some in Attack. +Def/-Speed nature.

Gengar-special sweeper
252/252/6 (SP. ATK/SPD/HP)
Shadow ball
psycic
thunderbolt
Focus Blast

Psychic has really bad type coverage, I'd recommend Hypnosis over it since your team is completely devoid of status moves. Timid nature.

My comments are in bold. Hope that helped some.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

@ frenchfri

Dargon hits everything for neutral except Steel. Earthquake can take care of that, while Stone Edge can hit Skarmory. I'd still use EQ / SE / Crunch on T-tar, though.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

thanks for the natures, i'll keep the move choices in mind though

but what about t-tar, is he not a good choice for my team cause of sandstream

should i use something else, maybe a physical wall or something

like skarmory, bronzong w/levitate, etc

 

[frenchfri]

@ frenchfri

Dargon hits everything for neutral except Steel. Earthquake can take care of that, while Stone Edge can hit Skarmory. I'd still use EQ / SE / Crunch on T-tar, though.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

Sorry, guess I worded that wrong. I meant that they hit almost nothing Super-Effective, not that lots of types resist it.

 

[commonyoshi]

Lunar Dance is a cruddy move. Ice Beam/Psychic/Moonlight/Calm Mind should be fine.

 

[mood4food77]

yea, i was just reading it....i don't think i want it

but my cresselia is impish and it's attack is higher than it's special attack

should i use someone else?

 

[brdy_]

Why are you putting choice scarf on a calm mind ape?

 

[mood4food77]

that's what ILC88 said

 

[SonicZeroX]

Lunar Dance is a cruddy move. Ice Beam/Psychic/Moonlight/Calm Mind should be fine.

It can help turn the tides of a battle, kinda like in a YuGiOh episode or something.

 

[mood4food77]

sonic, where's the blissey you were getting me...and the starters?

 

[brdy_]

What's the point of calm minding up when you cant do anything with it since you're CS'ed. Care to explain, Celebi? lol. Seems like set up fodder for anything on the opponents team to me.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

What's the point of calm minding up when you cant do anything with it since you're CS'ed. Care to explain, Celebi? lol. Seems like set up fodder for anything on the opponents team to me.

Yeah. You Calm Mind, and then you're struck into doing it until you switch. I once made a mistake like that on my CSpecs Lucario...

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

ok then..better item for infernape

 

[frenchfri]

Life Orb on Infernape. And I don't see why you would have Calm Mind on him instead of Nasty Plot. Your TTar has the same problem, with DD and the Choice Band. Big Root won't even do anything at all on Cresselia, since it only affects "drain" moves like Giga Drain and Leech Seed. Cursing with Swampert increases its defense, so I don't see why you'd want to wear its HP down with the Life Orb.

 

[mood4food77]

that's what celebii wanted

guess i'm changing those

 

[9Kplus1]

What's the point of calm minding up when you cant do anything with it since you're CS'ed. Care to explain, Celebi? lol. Seems like set up fodder for anything on the opponents team to me.

My bad, I forgot.

 

[brdy_]

Life orb sounds good to me. XD

EDIT: Oh and I agree with the Nasty Plot on ape thing, whoever said it.

Put lefties on TTar if you're going to DD

 

[Chill]

Naive Infernape (Life Orb)-mixed sweeper
128/128/252 (ATK/SP. ATK/SPD)
Close Combat
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot

Nasty Plot instead of CM. End of story.

Adamant Tyranitar (Choice Band) -Physical Sweeper
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Crunch
Outrage
EQ
Stone Edge

If you are using choice band you can't use dragon dance. Stone edge instead.

Bold or Relaxed Cresselia (Leftovers) -mixed tank
252/128/128 (HP/DEF/SP. DEF)
Moonlight
Ice beam
Charge beam
Lunar Dance

Just ask someone for one with a different nature in the GTS. Why does this pokemon have Big Root? That increases the power of drain attack which you have none of. Leftovers please.

Bold Blissey (Leftovers) -special tank
Seismoc Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Ice Beam/T-wave

252 HP 252 Def 6 Sp.Attk Okay?

Brave/Relaxed Swampert (Leftovers) -physical Sweeper
252/252/6 (ATK/DEF/HP)
Avalanche
Hammer Arm
EQ
Curse

Curse guys need leftovers.

Timid Gengar (Choice Specs) -special sweeper
252/252/6 (SP. ATK/SPD/HP)
Shadow ball
psychic
thunderbolt
Focus Blast

This one's fine.

 

[Shiri]

Wow, GG Chill. He got everything before I did. o_0

Only thing I'd say to watch out for are environments where the item clause is enforced. You can have all those leftovers, which is cool, but just have backup items ready in case.

 

[mood4food77]

chill, what about item clause

i'm still not sure if i want cresselia or t-tar

i'll post up alternatives

but thanks for your help

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

now i want my members to be this

i almost went for porygon-z as a special sweeper than i saw that i would have a pretty big fighting weakeness

i was suggestions on movesets and EV spreads but here's how it's most likely gonna look, also can i have the best nature for each poke

Naive Infernape (Life Orb)-mixed sweeper
128/128/252 (ATK/SP. ATK/SPD)
Close Combat
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot

Good. I'd put some more EVs into SpAtk since Close Combat is already gonna rip **** up.

Adamant Tyranitar (Choice Band/??) -Physical Sweeper
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
Crunch
Outrage/Stone edge
EQ
DD/Stone Edge

Use Stone Edge and Dragon Dance.

Bold/Relaxed Cresselia (Lefties/??) -mixed tank
252/128/128 (HP/DEF/SP. DEF)
Rest
Sleep Talk
Psychic
Ice Beam

Good.

Bold Blissey (Leftovers) -special tank
252/252/6 (DEF/SP. DEF/HP)
Seismoc Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Ice Beam/T-wave

Good.

Brave/Relaxed Swampert (Lefties/??) -physical Sweeper
252/252/6 (ATK/DEF/HP)
Avalanche
Hammer Arm
EQ
Curse

Good.

Timid Gengar (Choice Specs) -special sweeper
252/252/6 (SP. ATK/SPD/HP)
Shadow ball
psychic
thunderbolt
Focus Blast

Good.

anyways, can you guys help me out?

Thank you ILOVECELEBII!!208, Wii4Mii 99, Chill, french fri, Shiri, commonyoshi

Overall, a 8.5/10 Quite a balanced team, not too many weaknesses and a good amount of resistances.

If you people are wondering why I'm reviving this thread, it's because mood4food wanted me to rate his team.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

wrong team....

i couldn't get the pokes for this team

but i'll still keep this team in mind

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

wrong team....

i couldn't get the pokes for this team

but i'll still keep this team in mind

Darn...

I'll go rate the other one, then.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[mood4food77]

Thank You!!!!

^-^

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

:bigthumbu

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99