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M4FD team...edited..again

mood4food77

mood4food77

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well, after trying out shoddy battle, here are the 5 pokes that work wonders together

starmie@expert belt
timid
252/252/6 (speed/sp. atk/HP)
ice beam
tbolt
surf
rapid spin

special sweeper/spinner...pretty standard starmie

bronzong@leftovers
sassy
252/168/88 (HP/def/sp.def)
EQ
gyro ball
hypnosis
explosion/some other move (gets walled by a lot of pokes)

i'll try this

donphan@leftovers/shell bell (in case of item clause)
impish
252/252/6 (atk/def/HP)
EQ
roar
ice shard
knock off

my hazer

togekiss@leftovers
calm
252/252/6 (sp.atk/sp.def/HP)
roost
aura sphere
grass knot
air slash

special wall type, most likely the best poke on my team, grass knot FTW

breloom@toxic orb
adamant
252/252/6 (ATK/SPD/HP)
spore
focus puch
seed bomb
stone edge

physical sweeper...kicks ***

as of right now, weavile seems to be the best poke to compliment this team, it is my lead also at the moment

weavile@expert belt
jolly
252/252/6 (atk/spd/HP)
pursuit/better dark move
ice punch
aerial ace (for coverage)
brick break

while i do have a physical sweeper already, i would get completely walled by cresselia, so weavile does the job good

so, can you guys help me out here, a better poke that compliments the first 5, and moves for bronzong (cause having explosion is completely ruining it, gets walled by so much) and possibly a better dark move than pursuit cause it's not strong enough (i mean...it's only for cressy basically..and something that covers grass/bug types)
 
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standard electivire is lonely with thunderbolt crosschop icepunch earthquake
 
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Did you read the RMT thread? Don't list pokemon with a bunch of question marks.

If you need to change your team edit your old thread. This applies to everyone.
 
mood4food77

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wii4mii...i just found that out before you posted...haha

and yea, i'll change electivire's EVs and i'll change Weezing's EVs

does it make a difference if the 2 teams are completely different....i need help and the people here are nicer than on gfaqs
 
mood4food77

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no one

man i can't get help from here or gfaqs

i'll try smogon cause serebii won't let me onto their forums for some reason

EDIT: serebii is working now...didn't work at all yesterday
 
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Bronzong: Stealth Rock - Gyro Ball - Earthquake / Hypnosis / Explosion - Earthquake / Hypnosis / Explosion
PorygonZ: Nasty Plot- Try Attack - Dark Pulse - Hp Fighting
Donphan: Earthquake - Thunderfang - Ice Pebble - Knock Off / Stone Edge / Roar

Well, I think it isn't a great idea to use a RSpinning Starmie without Recover, especially when you have no other counters for Infernape. Put it over Ice Beam and give Sludge Bomb / Flamethrower / Hp Fighting to Weezing. I also think you must consider Heat Proof Bronzong to help against SpecsMence.
I hope my rate was helpfull. And sorry for my bad english.
 
mood4food77

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sludge bomb sucks for weezing...it's only supereffecting on grass and bug...and besides tangrowth, breloom, and heracross...who do we see
 
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Herr...poison isn't supereffective on bug. Anyway, Sludge Bomb is stabbed so it generally hurts pokemons harder than Thunderbolt.
 
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id teach donphan ice shard against dragons. its a nice surprise sometimes.....

weezing's t-bolt to flamethrower. maybe teach it haze. porygon use ice beam over t-bolt. maybe max weezing's HP to get it just above 300. we already had this conversation on aim lol. nice team. i wanna use weezing now for some reason.
 
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mood4food77 said:
well, item help is still needed

well...here they are

starmie
timid
252/252/6 (speed/sp. atk/HP)
ice beam
tbolt
surf
rapid spin

special sweeper/spinner...pretty standard starmie

Good.

porygon-z
modest
252/252/6 (sp. atk/speed/HP)
tri attack
flamethrower
ice beam
Nasty plot

nasty plot set up...

Porygon-Z can learn Flamethrower? I didn't know that... Anyways, I'd use Thunderbolt over Flamethrower.

bronzong@leftovers
sassy
252/252/6 (def/sp.def/HP)
EQ
Stealth rock
hypnosis
explosion

i'll try this

Always put 252 EVs in Bronzong's HP. Does your Bronzong have Levitate or Heatproof?

electivire
lonely
252/176/80 (atk/spd/sp. atk)
tbolt
EQ
ice punch
cross chop

electivire....ehhhh, what else i new...XD

Good.

weezing
relaxed
252/176/60/20 (def/HP/sp.atk/atk)
explosion
pain split
flamethrower
will-o-wisp

i used weezing on fluffy...and now i like him a lot, pretty standard weezing to me

Good. I think...

and finally...
donphan
adamant/impish (don't know which one is better)
252/252/6 (atk/def/HP)
EQ
roar
ice shard
thunder fang

Try Knock Off over Thunder Fang

my hazer


so help me out people...please
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Overall, a 8.5/10, although it seems like you have no real Special Wall. Once again, no serious weakness typewise, and plenty of resistances.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 
mood4food77

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oh crap...he can't learn flamethrower

i'm going with levitate over heatproof, i prefer an immunity over a resistance

so should i go, 252/128/128 (HP/def/sp.def)

knock off over thunderfang, ok

what natures should i get for bronzong and donphan

and WHAT ITEMS TO USE

what's the other lefties like item in case of item clause?
 
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mood4food77 said:
oh crap...he can't learn flamethrower

i'm going with levitate over heatproof, i prefer an immunity over a resistance

so should i go, 252/128/128 (HP/def/sp.def)

knock off over thunderfang, ok

what natures should i get for bronzong and donphan

and WHAT ITEMS TO USE

what's the other lefties like item in case of item clause?
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Yeah, 252 / 128 / 128 works fine.

Your Bronzong should probably have the nature that is SpDef+ SpAtk-

Donphan and Bronzong should have Leftovers. Electvire can have Expert Belt. Starmie... I dunno. Weezing should have Black Sludge.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 
mood4food77

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sounds good

but what's the other lefties item, i know there is one similar, can't remember it

just incase of item clause
 
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mood4food77 said:
sounds good

but what's the other lefties item, i know there is one similar, can't remember it

just incase of item clause
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Black Sludge. It does the same thing as Leftovers, but only works for Poison types.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 
mood4food77

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shell bell was the other one...just got it off gfaqs

but that only heals when it attacks
 
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Lefties would probably be best on Starmie. I wouldn't put a Life Orb on your rapid spinner, especially without a recovery move, wouldn't want to wear him (it?) out. Focus Sash wouldn't help him since Starmie rarely gets OHKO'd anyway.

Edit: something like Sassy 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef would make the stats pretty even.
 
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How about a +Def -SpAtk nature since he doesn't use SpAtks. I dunno, the Speed might be useful if, oh, trying to KO a Snorlax with Explosion before it attacks you first.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 
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well, with the minus speed, he could be a trick room counter too, messing up teams that use trick room
 
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mood4food77 said:
well, item help is still needed

well...here they are

starmie@leftovers
timid
252/252/6 (speed/sp. atk/HP)
ice beam
tbolt
surf
rapid spin

special sweeper/spinner...pretty standard starmie

Good, I'd give it a Choice Scarf though, but good.

porygon-z@focus_sash/life_orb
modest
252/252/6 (sp. atk/speed/HP)
tri attack
tbolt
ice beam
Nasty Plot

nasty plot set up...crap he can't learn flamethrower

Life Orb, if something Outspeeds it, while you're setting up the Nasty Plot, you'll be in a mess of trouble.

bronzong@leftovers
sassy
252/168/88 (HP/def/sp.def)
EQ
Stealth rock
hypnosis
explosion

i'll try this

Good.

electivire@expert_belt
lonely
252/176/80 (atk/spd/sp. atk)
tbolt
EQ
ice punch
cross chop

electivire....ehhhh, what else i new...XD

Good

weezing@black_sludge
relaxed
252/176/60/20 (def/HP/sp.atk/atk)
explosion
pain split
flamethrower
will-o-wisp

i used weezing on fluffy...and now i like him a lot, pretty standard weezing to me

Good.

and finally...
donphan@leftovers
adamant/impish (don't know which one is better)
252/252/6 (atk/def/HP)
EQ
roar
ice shard
Stealth Rock

my hazer

Impish is better if you want it to survive, Cradily pwns Donphan though, give it Stealth Rock to up the Damage and Ice Shard when the HP is low enough.
so help me out people...please
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I give this team a 1/10, Joking! This team really gets an 8/10, pat yourself on the back M4F, you did good.
 
mood4food77

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thank you celebii

i have ice shard for dragons...but for grass it'll work too

so..choice scarf on starmie (i thought lefties was a little weird...since starmie can't take a hit)

so, focus sash on porygon-z...i'll do it

and impish on donphan...nice
 
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now just to finally make the team, i've only started on weezing right now, i should have the team done some time by next month

it should be done before that but basically, i go on vacation next week and then football camp starts so i won't have time

so keep your hopes up
 
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donphans a good hazer, but if a special sweeper comes along, you wont be able to haze it and then youll be messed
id rather give porygon z an agility than nasty plot as it is never gonna be able to pulll it of with a base 90 speed stat
 
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