lylat cruise vs battlefield

[Dabuz]

ok, im starting to debate which neutral is better for olimar, lylat or bf, they both have there goods and bads but i would like some input, personally i think lylat is better but i wanna here what you all say, heres a list of pros and cons to support it, so im just curious as to what you guys think

lylat

pros
it has lower to ground platfoorms for easier upsmash,
its sv-like bottom allows for better defensive play
stops aerial approach more than bf
supports ground based fighting more
easier camping
the ships tilt screws up alot of projectiles somewhat but helps make interesting trajectories for pikmin
tilt helps olimar recover at weird angles and is more friendly to olimars tether therefore, makes him harder to edgeguard, hurts alot of recoveries that require precision like zelda, wolf, falco, lucario, ect.
the low to ground platforms makes it hard for aerial opponents to get back to olimar's level safe
allows for easier side kill, especially blue backthrow with the tilt changing angles
harder to get cged to death by falco
easier to fight mk here
peaches glide is messed up here(yesh!)

cons
higher ceiling making vertical kills harder
tilting can mess up fsmash alot
marth wrecks there
disorientating background
(more to come when people list some, cause thats all i got)

battlefield
pros
easier upsmash kills
better juggling
helps offensive olimars
easier to land grabs
aerials like fair and ground canceled nair are much more helpful here
(more to come when people list them)

cons
easier to edgegaurd olimar here,
people with big ranges can covers the whole field easily
smart snake gets huge advantage here
easier to be cged to death
aerial approaches are more effective against olimar here
(all i go for now)



remember, this is to figure out whether if lylat or battlefield is a better neutral for olimar, only put cons and pros if your comparing the two somehow or its something stage specific, i know this list is currently a little biased so ill add what other people say onto this list

im hoping to find out which stage is better because i think it would be a huge step towards advancing the metagame

 

[Rocann]

lylat tilt sometimes messes up peach's glide

 

[ConnorTheKid]

You should change "easier/harder up smash kills" with "easier/harder to kill upwards" It's more accurate imo.

 

[Dyyne]

I think lylat allows for more juggling, because the middle platform on bf normally doesn't assist juggling at all, but because the middle lylat platform is low, it still helps you juggle. You mentioned how the low platforms help against aerial approaches. I think this really sticks out with mk's glide attack, which is much harder to land on this level.
Also, I don't really think oli's aerials are really that much better on bf than lylat.

 

[Zori]

never take snake to lylat @_@

 

[Dabuz]

snake is harder on bf than lylat though, but fd is best against snake easily

 

[Dyyne]

snake is harder on bf than lylat though, but fd is best against snake easily

Agreed. Although lylat's platforms are lower, the level is also more spread out which lowers the efficiency of snakes explosives. Also, his grenades are more likely to just fall off the level due to the slope.