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Luigi problems :\

Lord-Geo

Smash Cadet
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Oct 20, 2006
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Well, I'm not any where near pro. Or in the same rank as most people here. But I can wave dash decently and land some shine spikes.

Anyway... I have trouble facing off against any Luigis that I fight. It seems like fighting in the air is impossible and most Luigis around here just spam the Down B which makes it a pain in the butt to shield grab.

Any hints on how to beat Luigi would be great!
 
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Here's some tips then:
When they attack you from the ledge, shiled it, then jump and shine them at low %s, at higher ones, usmash out of shield him. use usmash out of shield like crazy when you get to. the lower he is while recovering, the less options he has, keep that in mind, and use anything you can. preferably shine. use nair to usmash when possible, at higher %s, use nair to uair. if he falls out of the stage from your nair, you can still uair him if it would be worth it. or just shine at lower %s in that situation. abuse his recovery especially his side-b. bair shine tactics destroy luigi. but he has ways to counter it. most luigis dont, so you stop before they try to figure it out. as for down B (his), try to tech the first hit and then usmash him lol. or shield the first one and possibly the second one, then WD out of shiled to him and usmash. thats all. for now. theres more to it though.
If you don't know what I meant by something or dont know what something i said is/dont understand how to do it, just ask, me or another member will answer. ^^
 

Denfox

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Sep 4, 2006
Messages
295
Location
Costa Rica
wow

Here's some tips then:
When they attack you from the ledge, shiled it, then jump and shine them at low %s, at higher ones, usmash out of shield him. use usmash out of shield like crazy when you get to. the lower he is while recovering, the less options he has, keep that in mind, and use anything you can. preferably shine. use nair to usmash when possible, at higher %s, use nair to uair. if he falls out of the stage from your nair, you can still uair him if it would be worth it. or just shine at lower %s in that situation. abuse his recovery especially his side-b. bair shine tactics destroy luigi. but he has ways to counter it. most luigis dont, so you stop before they try to figure it out. as for down B (his), try to tech the first hit and then usmash him lol. or shield the first one and possibly the second one, then WD out of shiled to him and usmash. thats all. for now. theres more to it though.
If you don't know what I meant by something or dont know what something i said is/dont understand how to do it, just ask, me or another member will answer. ^^
wow men you have all the reason, Hey you Lord-Geo I was tell you but Silent Wolf tell you first... ohhhhhhhhhhh:( :laugh:

BUT LUIgi is so easy went he try to come to the field only one word
SHINE

-Good signature Silent.....
 

RedYoshi92

Smash Lord
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Oct 14, 2006
Messages
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try shine spiking against luigi meaning reflecting him off the side,I also think Uthrow + Uair works to.
 

Zgetto

Smash Ace
Joined
Jun 4, 2006
Messages
906
Location
Utrecht Duidelijk
try shine spiking against luigi meaning reflecting him off the side,I also think Uthrow + Uair works to.
u-throw -> u-air doesnt work on luigi cause either he can jump before you can land the u-air.
or he just uses nair to outprioritize the u-air.
i think its better to down throw a luigi at high perc. and tech chase him with a upsmash.
 

Fefnir Cerveau

Smash Lord
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u-throw -> u-air doesnt work on luigi cause either he can jump before you can land the u-air.
or he just uses nair to outprioritize the u-air.
i think its better to down throw a luigi at high perc. and tech chase him with a upsmash.
Yep, or a fthrow full jump nair works most of the time. Or it could lead to a edge guard.
 

Zjiin

Smash Master
Joined
Feb 15, 2006
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Location
Brazil, SouThSidE!
I play luigi as a secondary character, and i know better to go against a decent fox due to the fact that one shine, will pretty much send you to the edge of the level. If you luigi likes to down+B a lot, jump away from him and stay off the ground. he'll have to chase you in the air, which makes it easy for you to predict where he's going to be because of his floating. OR you can get used to the distance he can gain from his tornado and wavedash backwards to avoid it and get a free grab in. Then it's all uairs ftw.
 

_Phloat_

Smash Champion
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Dec 1, 2006
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Tennessee V_V
These people have covered most of it, the stuff I know anyways, but try to think while you are playing... What is he hitting you with? What is he killing you early with?? And always keep in mind his horribly gimpably recovery and relative lightness (KO him off the top, green greens is a great choice for that...

You and your opponents seem to be at the lower amatuer level, so just try and frustrate them, kill them the same way a lot. Soon you will start to see them make reckless angry charges and get killed very easily..

Good luck, practice a lot and then bet a money match when you think you can win ;)
 

Zgetto

Smash Ace
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i just fought a luigi(who wasnt really good) with my fox.
i can beat all his other chars pretty easy but against his luigi i had many problems with fox.(it isnt even his main)
there isnt anything i can do with fox(no waveshine combo's no grab combo's).
the only thing i could do is shine him off the edge and try to gimp him with a shinespike.
it really looks like luigi counters fox(luigi can combo easy and has a good edgeguard and his wavedash is **** annoying)
but when i play as my secondaries(falco or sheik wich are much worst then my fox) i 3 stock his luigi pretty easy.
now is it just me or does luigi counters fox pretty badly?

(atleast i know now i can **** his luigi with falco :p (lasers are good to mess up his wavedash and his aproach)
 
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