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Lucas's Frame Cancel Fair Combos!

Brozoco

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I made a rough estimate to when Lucas's Frame Cancel Fair combos into all of his other moves. In case you don't know what a frame cancel is, it is when you hit a move with the first active frame of it right before you land so you experience no landing lag.

 

Masque

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Aiming for Frame 9, then, huh? Gonna practice some of these. Thanks for sharing! :)
 

SpandexBullets

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Due to the similar knockback and landing lag it MIGHT already be covered by the clean zair > other things (zair > zair > fair > fair is a dreeeaam)
But interesting find!
 

Son~

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I made a rough estimate to when Lucas's Frame Cancel Fair combos into all of his other moves. In case you don't know what a frame cancel is, it is when you hit a move with the first active frame of it right before you land so you experience no landing lag.

I thought you had to fast fall during the hit lag. So you're just hitting them at the lowest possible point? No fast fall?
 

van18

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This is awesome! could these combos be done before the 1.1.3 patch?
 

MadCanard

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I can't help but hope that one of these can lead into a jab lock situation (with a missed tech of course).
 

JesterJaded

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I can't help but hope that one of these can lead into a jab lock situation (with a missed tech of course).
I imagine that if you can Fair > Dair with this, Fair > footstool should work as well, so yeah, Lucas' lock jank probably has another hit confirm.

I love this character.
 

Moosseff

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Whoah. This just opened up a whole new world. So much to lab....Thank you! This is an AMAZING find. Will it autocancel if you dont hit your opponent? Because that would actually be broken if you got the timing down to the point of it being second nature.
 

ilysm

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No, it won't frame cancel if you don't connect with the opponent. I don't understand the ins and outs, but essentially frame-cancelling occurs when the hitlag of an attack overlaps with its landing lag. This is why Lucas's fair is a good move for frame-cancelling; the window is more lenient because its hitlag is ridiculous. I don't think you can frame-cancel attacks on shield, though I don't know exactly why that interaction is different.
 
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