Lucario Momentum Transfer

[AkashSky]

Alright, I've heard of a term called momentum cancel which allows you to survive hits that would normally kill you in brawl, but I don't know if this was transferred over to PM.

However, what I want to discuss is something that I am sure that all lucario mains have accidentally done in one of their games, is the phenomenon when using extreme-speed and hitting the opponent at an angle slightly below the extreme-speed hit-box pushes the enemy a certain distance.

I call this term Momentum transfer because it looks like lucario's momentum from extreme-speed is being transferred to the opponent. This can be especially useful for pushing edge-guarding enemy's underneath the stage to where they cannot recover.

Today, I did this verse my friends snake and my other friends Ike.

So here I ask you all, if anyone has any ideas as to what the exact conditions for a momentum transfer are. All I can see from observation is that it seems to only work when hit by the lower part of the extreme-speed hit-box.

To further add to the discussion, I would also like to know if it is possible to momentum cancel in project M and if so how to do it with lucario.

 

[Bane13]

From my experience, it only happens when you manage to hit the opponent with just one of the extremespeed hitboxes that is not the last one. I've had it happen several times when I traded hits with an opponent offstage and against heavier characters when recovering with extremespeed at an angle right above them.

 

[bec]

momentum cancelling isn't a thing in PM except for bucket breaking with G&W as far as i know

with ES it seems to be (from my experience) about what bane13 said.