Looking for advice against Marth

[Vrmillion]

Hello, Marthboards!

I come here relatively often looking for tips on using Marth, but this time I'm here for the opposite.

I main Corrin, and Marth is a character I've been struggling against since day one. Does anyone have any experience with the matchup and would like to share? I've worked around his edgeguarding, but I just can't seem to break his spacing. I keep dying to ftilts and utilts mostly, and it seems like Marth has the speed advantage to beat me on the ground, the range advantage in the air (minus Corrin's bair, which also has the unfortunate side effect of extending your hurtbox), and the very clear difference in recovery quality offstage.

Any advice would be appreciated!

 

[GeflGabe]

As long as you stay the heck on the stage, you should be fine. Our ledge guarding is Corrin's bane. Marth's attacks come out slower than most moves so you want to try to rush them with quick attacks and grabs to counter the counter. Corrin's Fsmash and side B are pretty useful with dealing with Marth's nerfed but still decent range.

 

[zzmorg82]

In my experience, you have to stay close to Marth and pressure him. Since you're using Corrin, Side-B, F-Smash, and Neutral-B are good options to out space him.

 

[ElementUser]

Corrin has a lot more combos & tools in neutral than Marth does, so abuse those against him. Fair strings with Corrin is a real thing unlike with Marth

 

[TheYellowBlaze]

Shussshh guys. Why should we give them an advantage over us ;p. Forcing Marth to approach is probably one of your best bets. From my experience, and many others', Marth is bad at approaching. This can put you at an advantageous position.

 

[KarkVant]

Mix up your ledge getups, a read can lead to a jab-fsmash.

 

[Locuan]

dealing with Marth's nerfed but still decent range.

This is a misconception.
http://smashboards.com/threads/marth-data.379064/#post-18062624

Keep in mind that data was compiled during the games release. When compared to Brawl, our moves had more reach in Smash 4. Marth has received buffs since then that increased this property even further on some of his moves.

 

[NeoFranky]

Marth's frame data also gets the best of him, so you can punish pretty much anything if you're close, but outside of his range. Know your opponent's habits and when they throw out moves and punish those.