Ledgehop Zair

[Spudnick]

So I've been practicing and trying to get this down, but I can't seem to do it very consistently. Usually when I end up grabbing the ledge again it seems I didn't do my second jump early enough. Is there some trick to doing it that I don't know about?

 

[Jmex]

If im correct, you should dodge then zair. This will prevent you from re grabbing the ledge.

 

[GotACoolName]

AFAIK, it's only doable on Battlefield and Smashville (consistently, anyway; I've seen Rohins do it on FD, but I can't pull it off) because of their slanted sides. To make your zair shoot out straight like normal rather than grab the ledge, you have to pass the ledge horizontally. So in BF and SV, you let go of the ledge, move forward into the slant on the side of the stage, and then jump+zair. It's pretty easy.

 

[Spudnick]

Awsome thanks for the help, I've almost got it down pat now. Is there a thread where samus' techs and how to do them, somewhere? I perused around a bit before asking about the Zair and I didn't find anything.

 

[0RLY]

Sorry, but our mods don't sticky our good threads. *Stares in jealousy at the Zamus forums*

 

[OmegaXF]

All other neutral stages won't allow you to do this very well or at all. FD it can be done but it's because of the lip which makes your DI key in doing this consistently.

 

[Smash_Gigas]

On Final Destination, I've had several times where I try to Zair from the ledge, and my Samus sorta... "Teleports" back to the ledge. It's pretty nifty looking, and unfortunately I don't have the materials required to post up a video. =/ Unless this is old news....

 

[0RLY]

You mean like what happens with Wolf's and Marth's recovery sometimes?

 

[Smash_Gigas]

If you're referring to Wolf teleporting through the stage with B>, yeah, kinda. (I haven't seen Marth's though. O_o) But instead of teleporting through the stage, Samus teleports back to the ledge and grabs it.

Unless I'm mistaken, it happens when I'm above the ledge, and almost far enough on the stage to use Zair (like trying to hit your opponent). It's like the game thinks you're not in the position to grab the ledge, yet the ledge is still in your way from trying to perform your Zair. So, it just teleports you back to the ledge.

Sorry if my explanation isn't clear... I've only done it 3 or 4 times so far. =/ It's like trying to land a SWD for the first time.