I ran a few searches in the melee forum and jiggly forums, but no cigar so I thought I'd bring it up. When Jigglypuff lands a ledge hopped sing, the opponent sleeps and the lag from the move is canceled by the ledge. Normally, one can land an easy rest sending the opponent flying in the direction of the aforementioned ledge, but however, one can continue to ledge hop sing to continuously and indefinitely reset the sleep effect regardless of the opponent's %, rendering the move inescapeable. Is this legal? And is this legitimate?
Landing one can be arguably difficult and situational, and in fact it is entirely punishable by definition of it being a ledge hopped move. It is also not entirely a stall by itself, considering that it is also a set up for a deadly rest, or pound + aerials, or in teams for a teammate's move of choice. How is this in comparison to wobbling?
Just recently I saw a tournament match between a Falco and a Jigglypuff where the Falco for eight minutes laser camped, and b.air spammed, and then stalled until the timer ran out for the reason that he did not fare well in the match up and he went on to place 7th, conquering some pros along the way. He very easily could have ended his run prematurely at this point had he not reverted to this tactic, in addition to being incredibly lucky during his opponent's counterpick. Would it be any worse if the Jiggly chose to camp at the ledge in such a manner to avoid the lasers and b.airs? And if he landed a sing, to stall? Even for thirty seconds? Is it because the Falco requires more skill and work or it's counterable? Any opinions on anything I've brought up would be greatly appreciated.
Landing one can be arguably difficult and situational, and in fact it is entirely punishable by definition of it being a ledge hopped move. It is also not entirely a stall by itself, considering that it is also a set up for a deadly rest, or pound + aerials, or in teams for a teammate's move of choice. How is this in comparison to wobbling?
Just recently I saw a tournament match between a Falco and a Jigglypuff where the Falco for eight minutes laser camped, and b.air spammed, and then stalled until the timer ran out for the reason that he did not fare well in the match up and he went on to place 7th, conquering some pros along the way. He very easily could have ended his run prematurely at this point had he not reverted to this tactic, in addition to being incredibly lucky during his opponent's counterpick. Would it be any worse if the Jiggly chose to camp at the ledge in such a manner to avoid the lasers and b.airs? And if he landed a sing, to stall? Even for thirty seconds? Is it because the Falco requires more skill and work or it's counterable? Any opinions on anything I've brought up would be greatly appreciated.
