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Lack of bubble shields confirmed?

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ksadkiller

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i believe so. but there are so many unanswered questions

can u block from the back?
how will it show the shield depleading?
what about hitting the exposed legs of a small sheilder?
 

Hong

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It could be an uncharge Eruption.
It could be a down tilt.
It could be a down smash.
It could be that he shielded and removed it immediately.
It could be a Counter or a whole new technique.
It could be they, yes, changed the shields as a whole.

It's not worth speculating upon yet. Too many possibilities.
 

Circus

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Did Sakurai say there'd be no bubble shields?

No.

Then it's not confirmed.
QFMFT

Why did so many people jump to this conclusion? Bubble shields are a staple of the Smash Bros series at this point; I'm betting they won't be out. I find it much more likely that Ike is just using "Counter" (no, it hasn't been confirmed that he has that attack, but Marth and Roy did have it in Melee. I could see Sakurai resurrecting it for Ike).
 

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It's not worth speculating upon yet. Too many possibilities.
This forum is for Brawl speculation and discussion. If you don't want to speculate or discuss, then don't, but please don't go around telling other people not to.

Also, if you look at all the pictures on smashbros.com, you'll find there's a lot of pictures that give the impression the characters are blocking. I would like to think that the bubble shields have been replaced, as I always thought they look out-of-place.
 

Hong

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This forum is for Brawl speculation and discussion. If you don't want to speculate or discuss, then don't, but please don't go around telling other people not to.
Do not think I haven't taken that into account. It's just that in a scenario like this, it's a bit too farfetched with that many variables. I'm not saying it's foolish or incorrect to speculate since my post did mention their reasoning within it.
 

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I can't remember off the top of my head, but what's the animation when Link blocks a projectile with his shield? I know it's far-fetched to think Ike could be blocking with his sword, but still...
 

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Did Sakurai say there'd be no bubble shields?

No.

Then it's not confirmed.
\o/


Correct me if I'm wrong, I can't check now, but doesn't a character always flinch when their attack "clanks" with another?
I'm quite sure that's exactly what Ike's doing.
 

Exorcist

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It's strange, but the first thing I thought was the following:

Ike's UpB is really alot like Marth's recorvery minus the uniqueness of what Ike's actually does...

Ike's NeutralB is alot like Marth's NeutralB in a sense.

Then I saw this picture and my immediate reaction was "Oh, hey look...Ike's DownB must be a counter like Marth's, does this mean that his recovery wont be totally vertical like Marth's because later they'll show his FowardB will be something like Marth's in the sense that it helps him recover?"

That was as far as my train of thought went on this picture. Hey, it could be wrong, could be right. Maybe Ike is a complete utter remake of Marth because having two Fire Emblem swordsmen with such cunning similarities would be a little clone'y and Sakurai might not do that. Maybe not.


But tell me that I'm not the only one that thought this, please. If so I guess I'll make a topic about it(bah might as well) because I want to see what people think in a different route as the "new shield" business.


Feedback please <_<
 

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..I see I wasn't the only one who though there might not be any bubble shields but I do agree with what Lunadis said as there are just to many possibles.
 

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Someone tell me, did we see bubble shields in any official trailers/screenshots prior to Melee's release?

I don't remember them.

There are plenty of explanations for the animation we see there: Ike's attack is clanking, Ike is using a counter of some sort, Ike was hit and is flinching (what my first impression was due to how he's holding his left arm up, his head bent, and eyes closed), Ike is power shielding and the bubble is not appearing, Ike is shielding normally but they removed the bubble for aesthetic purposes, they 'posed' this outside of actual gameplay, and so on.

All of which I think more likely than the removal of bubble shields, which are important to the smash system in a surprising amount of ways (shield stun, shield poking, shield tilting, the three levels of shields, the size of shields used as a balancing factor, the decreasing effectiveness of blocking as one abuses it more, I could go on...), and I highly doubt/dislike the idea of them being removed.
 

yogho

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Ike doesn't flinch...and that's conphirmed. So its either that hes chargin or it's a block.

Now I don't think we need to discuss the bubble shield, if it hasn't showed up in any pic then maybe it's not there. And maybe it is.

I don't care, i'll wait.
 

Fawriel

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Ike doesn't flinch...and that's conphirmed. So its either that hes chargin or it's a block.
....please tell me you aren't serious.
It's confirmed that he doesn't flinch... For one moment during his recovery move.
 

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I do wish we get bubble shields, cause blocking like this makes it a lot less distinct. When do we know when someone's shield is up or not? What about light shielding? Shield deteoriation? Shieldstabs?

And to me that effect in front of Ike is very, very similar to clanck animation on melee, if not exacly alike.
 

Takeshi245

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I remember this thread that showed proof of bubble-shielding. I forgot what the name of it was, though. I'm going go check.
 

Mic_128

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Takeshi, thanks for the link, I'd missed that.

And who'd a thunk there'd be an existing topic for talking about blocking/shielding. :o
 
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