Koopa VS Kefka -- The Endless Tournament ends! Who took home the prize?

[Orboknown]

Wait how did koops even know rake was the cop rake got shot the same day he started talking about the message

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Wait how did koops even know rake was the cop rake got shot the same day he started talking about the message

I don't know who sent it to me.

Honestly, I feel like koops and ryu are scum more so than pawn.

lol turns out all threeo f us were

Also lol, I bussed everyone so hard except Ryu and I didn't even know my scumteam

ALSO RYU THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE BOTH SCUM AND WE DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TOWN UNTIL LATER ON

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

wait what.

Also wait, so pawn was scum ?

 

[Orboknown]

So you did get a message saying rake was cop?

 

[Orboknown]

wait what.

Also wait, so pawn was scum ?

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[Thirdkoopa]

I was scum.

Phone guy to be exact.

Rake told me he was the cop by confirming he got the message and the fact I heard a cell phone buzz in my room.

How I found my mates was moving around hotel rooms and seeing if I heard a cell phone ring in my room.

THANK YOU RYU : D

 

[Thirdkoopa]

So you did get a message saying rake was cop?

yeah ryu messaged me saying rake was the cop so i was like "i have this daykill power and i should trust the role that's known to be scum... what do I have to lose?"

 

[Orboknown]

Okay im misremembering the sequence of things then

 

[Magic Bounce]

Remember how I kept harping on how scum were moving rooms around? Wasn't how I thought but still, looks like I was right after all. :<

 

[Orboknown]

So much we did right,but so little people cooperating

 

[Magic Bounce]

Like, I called so many of scum's actions ahead of time or at least predicted their philosophy but I was always having trouble looking through the execution because of who I thought was scum. The only one I had right was Circus/Gheb. :\

Though ****, remember when I called that **** about Ruy/Koops going to ****ing Room 2 for really odd-ass reasons and it never amounted to anything even though it was exactly right

gogdammit

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Like, I called so many of scum's actions ahead of time or at least predicted their philosophy but I was always having trouble looking through the execution because of who I thought was scum. The only one I had right was Circus/Gheb. :\

Though ****, remember when I called that **** about Ruy/Koops going to ****ing Room 2 for really odd-*** reasons and it never amounted to anything even though it was exactly right

gogdammit

that was my actual reasoning though regardless of his alignment and i didn't know he was scum until today

how does that make you feel

 

[ranmaru]

Like, I called so many of scum's actions ahead of time or at least predicted their philosophy but I was always having trouble looking through the execution because of who I thought was scum. The only one I had right was Circus/Gheb. :\

Though ****, remember when I called that **** about Ruy/Koops going to ****ing Room 2 for really odd-*** reasons and it never amounted to anything even though it was exactly right

gogdammit

Yeah but other people were too cuz of wincons. Me/Joey had to move even though I forgot to or something one night lol

 

[Orboknown]

Individual wincons were secondary to beating scum though and should have been treated as such

 

[Orboknown]

Like that **** helped **** us over in the wall

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I technically succeeded in all of my individual wincons. The only one I didn't actually get was never getting raised for suspicion in cycle 2, because we didn't make it there. I figured I had it in the bag early on, but then yall started being ******** at the end of the game and making me a top scumspect.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Like, I called so many of scum's actions ahead of time or at least predicted their philosophy but I was always having trouble looking through the execution because of who I thought was scum. The only one I had right was Circus/Gheb. :\

Though ****, remember when I called that **** about Ruy/Koops going to ****ing Room 2 for really odd-*** reasons and it never amounted to anything even though it was exactly right

gogdammit

I thought you were my mate because you left me alone. :<

Oh well my bro Koops had my back at the end.

Glad I got people to get off Circus and on Pawn.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I literally did not care.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Like, I called so many of scum's actions ahead of time or at least predicted their philosophy but I was always having trouble looking through the execution because of who I thought was scum. The only one I had right was Circus/Gheb. :\

Though ****, remember when I called that **** about Ruy/Koops going to ****ing Room 2 for really odd-*** reasons and it never amounted to anything even though it was exactly right

gogdammit

Me moving around made sense, even more so if I was phone guy.

This is something I thought about before I got my role PM, but kept quiet on til later.

I also scum slipped a lot on what scum did and didn't know, woops.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Soup literally quoted my scum meta day 1 and pretty much nailed what I was doing to a T as well. :/

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

hey washed man dont feel bad about your scum-reads this game it was so abstract in concept that it was hard to really hard to keep up and i found myself so apathetic i was gut-reading half of the player-list or just going off first impression before the ddos i appreciate all the effort you put in this game no lie

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

WL was probs the best townie imo.

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah mine sucked too

we prolly might have got em anyways. Maybe

 

[Orboknown]

Laundry carried a lot of the game. What bugged me was how repeatedly no one understood the damn mechanics besides my slot washed and joker,maybe rake

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Laundry carried a lot of the game. What bugged me was how repeatedly no one understood the damn mechanics besides my slot washed and joker,maybe rake

I did, but people being confused about it benefited us more.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

For those of you who were very keen on discussing Wario's advice -- the idea there was that he was always saying to do the opposite of what was actually good. As a result, I had a lot of laughs about all the discussion, and especially about Gheb "knowing to follow Wario's advice" when really Gheb was just not interested in the proceedings.

The idea of Wario as a host was born out of his not being a fighter in the game, but still being very related to the roster in Mona, Wanda, and Princess Shokora.

I don't have too much to say about players in this game, as (intentionally) I took a very laissez-faire approach to modding this time around. I did a lot of skimming. I thought that town did very well in their reads. It was impressive how quickly Rake got found out by members of the town, and how a lot of the town's viewpoints aligned very quickly. The room request mechanic was decently utilized by town and scum both; it was interesting to see that factions in town began to form and people started to stay in the same rooms more, but I would have loved to see more variety in interactions.

Post-replacements, scum was playing a good game. I think that with GLG and Circus being in from the beginning, scum could have run a very tight ship.

I know that Swords was watching the game for quite a while, at least pre-DDoS. I wonder if he'll chime in.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Laundry carried a lot of the game. What bugged me was how repeatedly no one understood the damn mechanics besides my slot washed and joker,maybe rake

I understood them, I just never posted though.

I'm curious though, in our match you guys purposefully picked a color that would lose to the move that I was using, why was that?

 

[Orboknown]

I was on 3ds and i forgot which move was what color since it wasnt displaying lol

 

[Circus]

Only mate I knew was Ryu, thanks to the phone message. When I replaced in, my only two objectives were "oh **** try not to get removed gheb what have you done" and "throw to Ryu if you get matched with him."

I also got to bring my whole hotel room to my pizza restaurant on Night 3 since at that point no one cared about anything, which helped an indie goal of mine (gosh, my avatar, so perfect).

Loved the way the flavor of my role PM tied into Pizza Mafia. Really fun idea.

Sorry for AtE-ing like a ***** the whole last phase. I was waffling between doing that and just claiming in thread. Part of me just desperately wanted to make it to Cycle 2, because with Rake gone, I figured scum practically had it in the bag, and as long as I made it, I figured that was one more shot at a scummy getting the title (plus I managed to find two characters with banned moves that I could use, which would have given me a really nice advantage in post matches). But the other part of me did not want to spend the next two months making that happen.

Washed read me like a book, gj.

For those of you who were very keen on discussing Wario's advice -- the idea there was that he was always saying to do the opposite of what was actually good. As a result, I had a lot of laughs about all the discussion, and especially about Gheb "knowing to follow Wario's advice" when really Gheb was just not interested in the proceedings.

Reading that flavor after I replaced in and saw Gheb's first match had me rolling. I had thought you might have specifically written it with that match in mind.

 

[Circus]

Oh, and nice shot, koops.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Lol, washed also ate up your AtE like thanksgiving dinner, helping ryu throw suspicion on me ,and making me everyone's endgame top scumpick, despite being one of everyone's strongest townreads for the rest of the game.

 

[Circus]

Lol, washed also ate up your AtE like thanksgiving dinner, helping ryu throw suspicion on me ,and making me everyone's endgame top scumpick, despite being one of everyone's strongest townreads for the rest of the game.

Your jump on me was legitimately grimy and opportunistic. I hesitated to throw FUD on you because I thought you might be one of my mates. Then I decided my life was more important anyway so I went for it.

The point is Washed suspected me for my play. Most of the other townies who wanted me gone were all "Ghebghebghebgheb" and Ran was all "READ THE GAME" and Washed was like "nah, Circus does this as scum, but pawn tho."

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Me moving around made sense, even more so if I was phone guy.

This is something I thought about before I got my role PM, but kept quiet on til later.

I also scum slipped a lot on what scum did and didn't know, woops.

The only thing that tipped me off even a little bit was when Koops moved to Room 2 with some lines about wanting a buddy to move with. That was suspicious as hell to me because it didn't make sense and he didn't have the same alternate wincon as other slots did. It felt out-of-place and was the exact **** I was looking for but overlooked it for people being whiny *******/stupid dumbasses/oddly antagonistic/any mixture of those three.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

hey washed man dont feel bad about your scum-reads this game it was so abstract in concept that it was hard to really hard to keep up and i found myself so apathetic i was gut-reading half of the player-list or just going off first impression before the ddos i appreciate all the effort you put in this game no lie

thanks, this helps a bit

you kept floundering on and off of it. there were times where you'd do the towniest damn things and then you'd turn around and do the dumbest **** like outting a character with a banned move that you just kept hanging around on it

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Sorry for AtE-ing like a ***** the whole last phase. I was waffling between doing that and just claiming in thread. Part of me just desperately wanted to make it to Cycle 2, because with Rake gone, I figured scum practically had it in the bag, and as long as I made it, I figured that was one more shot at a scummy getting the title (plus I managed to find two characters with banned moves that I could use, which would have given me a really nice advantage in post matches). But the other part of me did not want to spend the next two months making that happen.

Washed read me like a book, gj.

not gonna lie i kept you around to help read pjb and i kept you around because i felt people would've been ******* and defaulted to pawn

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Lol, washed also ate up your AtE like thanksgiving dinner, helping ryu throw suspicion on me ,and making me everyone's endgame top scumpick, despite being one of everyone's strongest townreads for the rest of the game.

your push on him was legitimately opportunistic, sudden, and very driven by paranoia. it was weak, especially at that stage in the game, and did not make sense given your defense of him beforehand. throw that in with the way you handled my pressure as well as what he was saying and of course i'm going to suspect you. it was nothing circus did that made me look at you again, save for bringing it up when i didn't.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

The only thing that tipped me off even a little bit was when Koops moved to Room 2 with some lines about wanting a buddy to move with. That was suspicious as hell to me because it didn't make sense and he didn't have the same alternate wincon as other slots did. It felt out-of-place and was the exact **** I was looking for but overlooked it for people being whiny *****es/stupid *******es/oddly antagonistic/any mixture of those three.

If town won, I would have asked for you to get MvP.

Tell me this, this is something I have trouble grasping. As town, how do you get people to listen to you and get motivated? You and WoTT were the only people to make it happen, how do you get people to want to get in there and listen to you. You're one of the few I've seen make it happen.

 

[Orboknown]

You and WoTT were the only people to make it happen, how do you get people to want to get in there and listen to you. .

Personally i yelled at people with common sense and it seemed to work.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I fail to see how putting something together is opportunistic. We had no problems from Gheb's slot all game, then it gets replaced by Circus, and Rake dies almost immediately. Me pointing that out is opportunistic? ***** please.

It wasn't even a sudden flip, yall are ****in hella high on the chronic. I thought Gheb was scum for most of the game, and said as much. I wanted to keep Gheb alive to use for cop removal, so we could put the cop in his top seeded slot. Go and actually read the game before accusing me of stuff like you know what your talking about. Like, I know that reading the game is a pain in the ass, but if ur gonna say some ****, then do ur homework, don't expect me to do it for you. You're assigning stances to me that I never had, because you failed to read the game and double check yourself. All I was doing was pointing out how ***** scummy the slot was, and somehow being right for wrong reasons justifies a total flip on my slot from the entire game. Nope, sorry guys, still not justified.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

If town won, I would have asked for you to get MvP.

Tell me this, this is something I have trouble grasping. As town, how do you get people to listen to you and get motivated? You and WoTT were the only people to make it happen, how do you get people to want to get in there and listen to you. You're one of the few I've seen make it happen.

Lead by example. By forcing myself to stay motivated and continue to act, I just kinda hope that people will follow my lead. In return, I call out the people who are being dissident, useless, or simply stupid and give them the option of joining the program. Scum tends to fall out of the wagon.