Kirby.....next great fighter?

[KirbyForAll]

Kirby always been a Veteran Smash fighter, but who else thinks that he could be a dominate fighter in Brawl? He's extremely quick and if Nintendo gives him so powerful moves then he could be a great character. He also has the whole flying thing going for him! Any thoughts?

 

[.M.e.t.a.k.n.i.g.h.t.]

My thoughts are add a sword to kirby and armor to kirby and that would make him better.......oh wait there is someone like that .....METAKNIGHT

Kirby is useless just a puffball that is in SB cuz he had lots of games in the past and is a famous Nintendo character

 

[Kirby knight]

Well when Kirby KO'd Both Link and Mario with his upsmash I think some improvements have been made.

He just needs to return to his N64 roots in order to be great again.

If he's crappy; again...I'll just play as Metaknight(>_> hoping he isn't crappy either but I highly doubt that he will be)

 

[Symphony X]

I like Kirby, but I hated his moveset. I do't like the hammer, or his stone power. I never did. His up B is great though. I hope he is revamped for Brawl.

 

[.M.e.t.a.k.n.i.g.h.t.]

Even if they made Kirby better I still get stuck on this fact.....

Metaknight is Kirby with armor and a sword.......Don't these two things make you superior

AND Metaknight is traditionally faster than Kirby......

Nothing against Kirby but i think he is worthless as a brawler and won't add up to other characters

 

[Al Calnos]

My thoughts are add a sword to kirby and armor to kirby and that would make him better.......oh wait there is someone like that .....METAKNIGHT

Kirby is useless just a puffball that is in SB cuz he had lots of games in the past and is a famous Nintendo character

You obviously don't know who creator of Kirby is...

 

[Kirby knight]

I just didn't like how his B moves were almost unusable in SSBM. Less lag would be nice. I really don't like the hammer tbh

 

[Symphony X]

Metaknight is Kirby with armor and a sword.......Don't these two things make you superior

No. Not at all. Did Fox have a sword? Armor? How about Sheik? These are two top tier characters. I realize that Marth is too, but he only has a sword, and this does not make him better.

 

[Kunitsuna]

Metaknight is Kirby with armor and a sword.......Don't these two things make you superior

Meta Knight isn´t "Kirby with armor and a sword", fanboy.

Nobody should "dominate" SSBB. Balance should be the ultimate goal.

 

[.M.e.t.a.k.n.i.g.h.t.]

I'm not comparing all characters just Kirby and Meta

Kirby=Naked and uses his fists

Meta=Armor Clad and uses a sword

Nakedness gives almost no defense/armor gives lots
Fists do almost no damage/swords do lots

I can see the balance if kirby was faster but the fact is TRADITIONALLY metaknight is faster than kirby

Do you atleast see where im coming from?

 

[Kirby knight]

Even if they made Kirby better I still get stuck on this fact.....

Metaknight is Kirby with armor and a sword.......Don't these two things make you superior

Sure he may have a sword and a mask, but that doesn't make him better than Kirby. I mean who knows; what if Kirby is better than Metaknight. Kirby has such a diverse movepool to work with.

AND Metaknight is traditionally faster than Kirby......

Yeah he is.

Nothing against Kirby but i think he is worthless as a brawler and won't add up to other characters

Have you actually played a Kirby game for what it is? I'm surprised that you don't have a little more respect for the Francise; after all the creator of it made SSB and Metaknight Jeez..

I found Kirby games to be highly enjoyable.

I really don't understand what youmean by "worthless as a brawler" and "won't add up to other characters".

 

[KirbyForAll]

I understand Metanight will be like Kirby, but I am saying if Kirby gets more powerful moves. Then it would put a balance with him and Metanight....or possibly make Kirby a top fighter.

 

[Hong]

The funny thing about the trailers is, Kirby has just as much range with kicks as Meta Knight has with a sword.

I want Kirby to be improved upon, but I don't want him to be top tier. I don't want my favourite Nintendo character being overrun by unoriginal fighters. All I ask is for better throws and an Inhale that works on projectiles.

 

[.M.e.t.a.k.n.i.g.h.t.]

He wont add up because he is so easily tossed about.....and he doesnt do that much damage....so what has he got going for him....the jump?

I just don't see how he could be a brawler if he cant receive or deliver damage that well

Oh but i love the series and have much respect for it but.....i just don't see kirby being a fighter

I always saw him as the cute puffball every little kid loves to make roam around on their gameboy

 

[Symphony X]

I don't think Kirby will ever be a top fighter, but who knows? I didn't think the IC could be used effectively when I first saw them.

 

[Kirby knight]

Honestly I'd love it if Kirby had his own version of the Star Rod as his >B. I mean it would give him some ranged attacks which would help him out tremendously.

 

[Hong]

Honestly I'd love it if Kirby had his own version of the Star Rod as his >B. I mean it would give him some ranged attacks which would help him out tremendously.

They gave his B-Up a faster startup from what I can tell. I want to say it looks like it has longer range, but I'm not 100% sure. This will allow him to use it at a distance and not get punished for it. Nothing spammable, but better than nothing.

 

[IllidR]

I'm just hoping Kirby doesn't suck as bad as in SSBM.

 

[Kirby knight]

He wont add up because he is so easily tossed about.....and he doesnt do that much damage....so what has he got going for him....the jump?

You know; that could almost apply to Metaknight as well; with all his combo moves I highly doubt they'll do that much damage. Also who's to say that Metaknight won't have the same problems with being "easily tossed about"?

I just don't see how he could be a brawler if he cant receive or deliver damage that well

That's the thing; this is Brawl. I'm sure Sakurai will have noticed his great error in "toning" Kirby down in Melee from his N64 self. I mean how do you know that Kirby can do? This is a new game; you can expect improvments. Sakurai said himself that the game was being created with balance in mind.

Oh but i love the series and have much respect for it but.....i just don't see kirby being a fighter

I'm really surprised; with all of his abilities; I think he made a great fighter.

I always saw him as the cute puffball every little kid loves to make roam around on their gameboy

Yeah Kirby's cute but he packs a punch as well.

 

[Vagrant Lustoid]

Why is this one Metaknight fanboy so convinced Kirby can't brawl? He was top tier in SSB64, which shows that it is indeed possible. He may be lighter than Metaknight, but armour dosn't mean much with taking damage. He's a squishy marshmallow. Theoretically, he should be able to absorb damage from blows far better than armour could. The knockback is a different issue altogether.

As for Metaknight? OMGKIRBYWIVSWORD. Shut up. I hope for Metaknight to play significantly differently to Kirby, especially since Kirby can play up all the transformations fielded over the years. I want them to be somewhat similar but different enough that you can't jump between them with ease.

As for sword vs fists. Does it occur to you that perhaps Kirby is just ratehr strong, and thus able to punch quite hard?

 

[KirbyForAll]

I don't know if anyone here has played the Kirby game for Super Nintendo, but he had a special where he would yell into a microphone and all of the enemies on-screen would die. Maybe they could work that move into the game and have it give a little damage or stun the other fighters...

 

[.M.e.t.a.k.n.i.g.h.t.]

As for sword vs fists. Does it occur to you that perhaps Kirby is just ratehr strong, and thus able to punch quite hard?[/QUOTE]

Orly but u said he was like a marshmellow.....marshmellows cannot deal good damage

 

[Symphony X]

I played it, and I know the Mic move. Anyway, Kirby was WAY too strongly nerfed in Melee. If that gets fixed, we'll be back in business.

 

[Hong]

So far, all of Kirby's specials are the same. Well, they haven't shown the B, but it's only safe to assume its Inhale. Though, theoretically, they could make him uber unique by making his Inhale into a grab and the down throw into copy, but I really don't that.

His attacks have long range for his size, so that's good. All they need to do is tweak the power, vastly improve his mediocre grab game and make it so Inhale works on projectiles. (As Kirby has done for nearly 20 years? :/)

 

[Vagrant Lustoid]

His body is like a marshmallow. Or rubber. This is proved by his being able to swallow people. And yet he is able to move and punch and do things rubber and marshmallows cannot. So your point does not stand.

 

[Kirby knight]

As for sword vs fists. Does it occur to you that perhaps Kirby is just ratehr strong, and thus able to punch quite hard?

Orly but u said he was like a marshmellow.....marshmellows cannot deal good damage[/quote]

How do you know this as a fact? Kirby the killer marshmellow ^_^

On the other hand Kirby seems more rubbery than anything; I bet his punches feel like getting hit with whip

Side note: (although almost based on nothing) I wonder how a Kirby vs Metaknight match up would fair? Metaknight has great combo's but due Kirby being so light he may not have that much of an advantage.

 

[Symphony X]

So far, all of Kirby's specials are the same. Well, they haven't shown the B, but it's only safe to assume its Inhale. Though, theoretically, they could make him uber unique by making his Inhale into a grab and the down throw into copy, but I really don't that.

His attacks have long range for his size, so that's good. All they need to do is tweak the power, vastly improve his mediocre grab game and make it so Inhale works on projectiles. (As Kirby has done for nearly 20 years? :/)

Agreed. If his throw was inhale, then what would would replace his neutral B?

 

[KirbyForAll]

Agreed. If his throw was inhale, then what would would replace his neutral B?

His B move could be like Fox's gun except it shoots little stars. (Like little warp stars) And it could possibly be charged.

 

[Hong]

Agreed. If his throw was inhale, then what would would replace his neutral B?

I posted that so people could think up ideas. But I guess a projectile would be nice. I'd like Bomb Kirby! I don't want it like Link's bombs, but Kirby's bombs. B once to pull it out, B again to throw it. Holding B gives it more height but less distance. Down+B, drops it at his feet. Dash + B throws it like a bowling ball. That's how it worked in Kirby Super Star.

 

[Kirby knight]

His throw being inhale would be very clever. I like the bomb idea; anything really that give him some ranged attacks other his Final Cutter

 

[Symphony X]

I posted that so people could think up ideas. But I guess a projectile would be nice. I'd like Bomb Kirby! I don't want it like Link's bombs, but Kirby's bombs. B once to pull it out, B again to throw it. Holding B gives it more height but less distance. Down+B, drops it at his feet. Dash + B throws it like a bowling ball. That's how it worked in Kirby Super Star.

That could work very nicely. Good idea.

 

[Hong]

Have they shown the stone ability yet? If they haven't, then it's possible.
I can't check right now. Painting. :/

 

[Kirby knight]

I'm remember seeing him use "stone" in one of the trailers

 

[Symphony X]

I remember that too.

 

[Hong]

Aww. So that only leaves the very, very slight possibility his Grab became his Inhale. (Which I doubt, sadly.)

 

[Symphony X]

Aww. So that only leaves the very, very slight possibility his Grab became his Inhale. (Which I doubt, sadly.)

Yeah, I like his grab being inhale more. It also adds a bit more skill to Kirby.

 

[Sinn]

My biggest complaint about things they did to Kirby in Melee that I would want changed in Brawl is his dashing attack. That fireball has propelled me off the stage and into an unfavorable position way too many times. And I'm not incredibly fond of his hammer move either...either faster or less lag afterwards would be nice.

 

[Hong]

Meh. The problem with the Hammer is it's weak even if it sweetspots considering how cumbersome it is. I don't care about the speed, just make it worth while to actually connect with. :/

 

[Derek~Joe]

No. Next great fighter Mewtwo and Link, nuff' said

 

[Kirby knight]

I'm actually still surprised Kirby still has that hammer; considering if King Dedede is in (most likely). Alot of King D's moves are going to based around the hammer. Honestly I think the hammer looks akward and out of place on Kirby for some reason.

Like I mentioned before; I think the Star Rod could of been a great replacement to the hammer but alas no such hope now. They better make his hammer alot better ( 35-40% for a sweetspot hit, >__> jk).