Vayseth
Smash Master
For those who don't know, double jump cancel was a term used in melee. Here's what it is as defined by the melee term thread:
First, I don't have a video, seeing as I wanted to include this in my tutorial video(s) but... it's really hard to notice without some sort of visual evidence. I will hopefully get working on the tutorial video this weekend so, hold out for a wee bit longer.
All you need to know is that there are two types of landings you can do in the game: a soft landing and a hard landing. You can see for yourself if you do a short hop and land vs doing a full hop and land. The landing animation is different and a hard fall has a longer animation than a soft one.
This can be seen in a lot of characters up Bs as well. Like DK when he slides and hits the ground or when he lands fine. Also with D3 when you cancel the up B and land you will do a quick recovery but when you cancel it right by the ground you will do a hard landing, and all of us have seen and REALLY HATE D3's hard landing after his up B. It sucks. Anyway, to understand fully what I am about to say, know that there are two types of landing that ARE NOT landing lag from an aerial move. It is just standard landing that, in this game, has two types.
The point is, everyone has noticed how awesome D3's up and down air attacks are, but the biggest problem I've noticed is the fact that it can't auto-cancel. Landing with your hammer in the ground with D3 sad after a short hopped dair isn't my favorite thing to do. So, I found a way around it.
You can do two things:
1. You can do a full hop. If you full hop and perform the dair or uair as you are leaving the ground (aka, Rising Dair, etc) You will have a hard landing but you will be able to input any button on frame 5, aka, you won't be punished. On Battlefield you can full hop auto cancel onto the platforms, but it will be a soft landing (being able to input on frame 2).
2. You can do what I have termed a "double jump cancel." This is easiest to do with tap jump on. You short hop, flick the control stick up for a second jump but cancel the momentum by pushing down or up on the c-stick right after (do not hold the c-stick down, you will fast fall). You will do a dair or uair that is a shorter jump height than a full hop but taller than a short hop, allowing you to auto cancel it. This will be a soft landing (input allowed on frame 2). I do not play with tap jump on but you can tap the jump button twice and pull it off, it just feels awkward at first. I set another button to jump so I can hit on jump button and then the other just as fast as with tap jump on.
I see many D3 players getting punished for short hopping dairs and uairs so I wanted to point this out to you guys now. If you don't get it, I'll make a quick video so you have the visuals you need but, if you guys kind of understand, I'll just make the video this weekend.
Enjoy!
Now, while I realize what I am about to say is not only NOT character specific, but it also does not make the jump lower than a short hop. So, before I go on, know that I am calling it a double jump cancel, but it is different from the melee definition.
First, I don't have a video, seeing as I wanted to include this in my tutorial video(s) but... it's really hard to notice without some sort of visual evidence. I will hopefully get working on the tutorial video this weekend so, hold out for a wee bit longer.
All you need to know is that there are two types of landings you can do in the game: a soft landing and a hard landing. You can see for yourself if you do a short hop and land vs doing a full hop and land. The landing animation is different and a hard fall has a longer animation than a soft one.
This can be seen in a lot of characters up Bs as well. Like DK when he slides and hits the ground or when he lands fine. Also with D3 when you cancel the up B and land you will do a quick recovery but when you cancel it right by the ground you will do a hard landing, and all of us have seen and REALLY HATE D3's hard landing after his up B. It sucks. Anyway, to understand fully what I am about to say, know that there are two types of landing that ARE NOT landing lag from an aerial move. It is just standard landing that, in this game, has two types.
The point is, everyone has noticed how awesome D3's up and down air attacks are, but the biggest problem I've noticed is the fact that it can't auto-cancel. Landing with your hammer in the ground with D3 sad after a short hopped dair isn't my favorite thing to do. So, I found a way around it.
You can do two things:
1. You can do a full hop. If you full hop and perform the dair or uair as you are leaving the ground (aka, Rising Dair, etc) You will have a hard landing but you will be able to input any button on frame 5, aka, you won't be punished. On Battlefield you can full hop auto cancel onto the platforms, but it will be a soft landing (being able to input on frame 2).
2. You can do what I have termed a "double jump cancel." This is easiest to do with tap jump on. You short hop, flick the control stick up for a second jump but cancel the momentum by pushing down or up on the c-stick right after (do not hold the c-stick down, you will fast fall). You will do a dair or uair that is a shorter jump height than a full hop but taller than a short hop, allowing you to auto cancel it. This will be a soft landing (input allowed on frame 2). I do not play with tap jump on but you can tap the jump button twice and pull it off, it just feels awkward at first. I set another button to jump so I can hit on jump button and then the other just as fast as with tap jump on.
I see many D3 players getting punished for short hopping dairs and uairs so I wanted to point this out to you guys now. If you don't get it, I'll make a quick video so you have the visuals you need but, if you guys kind of understand, I'll just make the video this weekend.
Enjoy!
