Killing Donkey Kong

[xS A M U R A Ix]

I've been playing on AIB's ladder recently and I fought the top DK player there today. It went down to the wire on the last match and the entire time I had this aching question I needed to find an answer to, because having to get DK to 200% or so just to kill him is ********. How do you edge guard that fool? If he up B's low to the stage, it doesn't seem like ANYTHING will beat it out from above or the sides. I could sneak in u.airs from under it but those don't kill him. DK's up B just seems to have ridiculous priority.

So my questions is, how do you edge guard him? There's got to be a trick to it. Maybe go under him and hit him with one of those reverse launching up B's? That's super risky though. Help me out here, other expert MK players.

 

[Affinity]

Edgeguarding DK is tough. His Up-B has good priority and is very hard to shuttle loop. When you see a DK use the Up-B recovery toward the stage (not the edge), wait for him to hit the ground then punish him with a grab, D-smash, or whatever works best in that situation.

If you want some more detailed answers, I suggest going to Zephyr's and Terranrox's match-up question thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=175321

 

[Crizthakidd]

yea dude theres a matchup thread. and vs that guys dk its insane. dks only weakness is his big size and he cant recover vertically. dair his *** to death. ur not killing dk unless u downsmash at the ledge or edguard him to death lol

 

[meta master]

i hate killing DK, his Up B does have amazing priority. like affinity2412 said, wait till he hits the gound then punish him. btw, does anyone have trouble with this giant punch. doesn't it have superarmor frames? and kill meta at 60% or so?

 

[Quez256]

i hate killing DK, his Up B does have amazing priority. like affinity2412 said, wait till he hits the gound then punish him. btw, does anyone have trouble with this giant punch. doesn't it have superarmor frames? and kill meta at 60% or so?

Regarding the Giant Punch, yes and yes if it's fully charged.

 

[xS A M U R A Ix]

See the problem is, if you let him recover above the stage, if he hovers close to the ground he doesn't fall over. So, I HAVE to edge guard him, or it's back to guessing games and risking being killed. Someone mentioned d.air, does that work?

 

[Kulla]

He cant dodge while doing his Up-B right? I dont really play DK, but theoretically, you could wait below the stage and just Shuttleloop him when he tries to recover.

 

[-Kiros-]

would Dair work? DK's arms are like a hurricane, with the eye at the center (at least in SSB.)

 

[ShaolinAce]

Dair gets out prioritised easy. Try and gimp him before he can use his up b it's a risk. But thats my only way to deal with him. Hit him before he can up b. He'll be so far away it will be useless.

 

[DFEAR]

yea dude theres a matchup thread. and vs that guys dk its insane. dks only weakness is his big size and he cant recover vertically. dair his *** to death. ur not killing dk unless u downsmash at the ledge or edguard him to death lol

yea dk's UpB blocks our shuttle loop ;__; makin gimpin him almost impossible that way. what i try to do with dk players is getting him verticly ******** xD as in getting him in a position where horizontal recovery doesnt work. like in final destination what i do is get him towards the bottom of the stage then away from him either tryin to stage spike him or making him unable to get up. buUUUUUUT whats gay is he has enough time to FowoardB u into a spike and safely come back to stage which is super homo :\ all Dk's spikes is really vicious towards us when attemptin to gimp him :\. i tend to not use metaknight against good Dk players id use Dk myself o.o and Bair him,spike him, or grab him into a stage spike xd. but for metaknight T_T dk to me is my ultimate foe.