ken...

[TheGoat]

Kings of cali, I was very surprised to see the name "ken". He's not bad despite all the years mia. Interesting.

 

[JKJ]

As Mango said once, he believes that the metagame not only E-volves, but it also RE-volves. He believes that old meta can sometimes reach a special point where it can beat new meta. Ken was an example of this. If Ken's technical skill was on point, he would have placed quite highly, I believe.

 

[EthereaL]

The idea of old-meta(game) "beating" new-meta(game) is silly when the current trend in the metagame is based on optimizations.

Though it was hilarious watching people attempt to shield against him.

En totum: the old metagame gets beaten by the new metagame, people just forget which new tricks are used to stop the old ones.

 

[Armada]

As Mango said once, he believes that the metagame not only E-volves, but it also RE-volves. He believes that old meta can sometimes reach a special point where it can beat new meta. Ken was an example of this. If Ken's technical skill was on point, he would have placed quite highly, I believe.

I have heard something that he was talking about different/old pressure beeing good because people don't expect it. So yeah with human beeings I guess some old stuff can be good sometimes.

Most of the cases I think old stuff is old just because people find new ways to end up in a better place for the specific situation. That dosen't mean old stuff never will work but the situations can most of time be used in a better way.

 

[Twinkles]

Mango wasn't really talking about general metagames though, he was talking about specific timings on certain technical stuff, dairing early vs. dairing late, stuff like that.

In that case, switching up the timing old vs. new can throw off people. And there are some old-school stuff that could potentially trick a lot of people today.

Apart from that, I agree with Ethereal.

 

[Armada]

Mango wasn't really talking about general metagames though, he was talking about specific timings on certain technical stuff, dairing early vs. dairing late, stuff like that.

In that case, switching up the timing old vs. new can throw off people. And there are some old-school stuff that could potentially trick a lot of people today.

Apart from that, I agree with Ethereal.

Okay that sounds more like Mango/a top player saying something like that
Ethereal is correct for sure.

 

[Tee ay eye]

god damn it

 

[iRobinhoood]

Okay that sounds more like Mango/a top player saying something like that
Ethereal is correct for sure.

Armada I was watching SC2 recently from Sweden and there were Swedish commercials being played. The language looked similar to German, if someone was to talk to you in German would you be able to understand it a bit? Just curious, also off topic I know.

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

swedish is a germanic language, as is english. he would only be able to understand a few words that can be deciphered with common sense, similar to how you, an english speaker would since many words in english have roots dating back to high german.

i'll go ahead and assume that armada know more german words than the average american considering sweden's proximity to germany, as well as how common the language is there.

 

[Armada]

Swedish/German have many words that is very simillar. I was reading German for a few years but I was kinda young when I started and the lessons in "C languages" (third language) is terrible in Sweden if you ask me.

I never put any effort into it and Im way better in other subjects so I used my time to get better grades in other things. But yeah I can understand some things but that is mostly because I was reading it for a while. But most people in Sweden would understand some words at least.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

lol Rename the thread to "Armada...." and change it everyday to some other smasher who gets talked about a lot.

Besides, I want to say nothing changed in the last 5 years.

 

[chenjesu]

does ken have a job now or is he still in school

i remember reading on the wiki he wanted to be an art major is that true?

 

[KrIsP!]

He said on stream he has a job. I agree with the idea of changing the title to a different smasher everyday. It's like a community spotlight but no one gives a ****

 

[Bones0]

As Mango said once, he believes that the metagame not only E-volves, but it also RE-volves. He believes that old meta can sometimes reach a special point where it can beat new meta. Ken was an example of this. If Ken's technical skill was on point, he would have placed quite highly, I believe.

Ken wasn't an example of anything like this. He barely made it out of pools (getting seeded first afaik), and continued to get pooped on in bracket. If anything, his set with Toph was representative of his entire tournament. Game 1 he wins because Toph is likely nervous as **** facing Ken. Game 2 he gets over it when he realizes Ken is bad, but he still struggles because Ken is using 5-year-old metagame tactics like fsmashing shields and using side-B combos. Game 3 he gets used to the weird play style and whoops him.

I love Ken as much as the next guy, which is why I'm not going to sit here and act like he was playing good. It's disrespecting him and the game.