Keep Melee strong

[Joe73191]

I only started attending tournaments at the beginning of this year. I have improved so much this year. Now it seems there is a new smash that lacks much of what so many people love about Melee. Many people want that to be the main game, some even say everyone should drop Melee for it.

Mr. Wizard asked what game people want to see at Evo 2015 and when a lot of people said Melee he asked "why do melee players hate Smash 4?" as if preferring Melee meant you must hate smash 4, also it showed that he preferred Smash 4 at Evo 2015 because he was disappointed people chose Melee over smash 4. I'll tell you, I won't spend hundreds of dollars on hotel and plane tickets to Evo if Melee isn't there.

There is pressure from the a lot of people toward Melee players to move on from Melee to Smash 4. Nintendo won't want Melee overshadowing Smash 4 so they may try to block Melee from large events. I prefer Melee. To me it is just a better game. I like what Melee offers. The physics, the momentum, the dash-dance, everything that Melee has that the other games don't are what make Melee so great and why it had the largest numbers this year in tourney history and why so many people love it so much, still, after 13 years.

They call this the Platinum Age of Melee. Let that be the case as we move forward. Melee and PM and Smash 4 can all co-exist, but it's up to us to work twice as hard to keep Melee thriving when we have an uphill battle ahead of us. There is a lot of hate for Melee out there, I see it everyday on Facebook and in the Smash for 3DS/Wii U forums. Keeping Melee thriving despite Nintendo trying to make sure Smash 4 is the main game and despite the Melee haters in the Smash 4 community will be tough, but I know we can do it. You did it when Brawl came out and we can do it again now.

For those that don't think Nintendo will try to block Melee at events to promote Smash 4 think of this: How will it look for Smash 4 if Melee gets more entrants than it? A 13 year old game getting more entrants than the shiny new game may make Nintendo think that it makes Smash 4 and Nintendo look bad so to ensure that it doesn't happen Nintendo may try to block Melee at events. We can't let this happen. We need to be firm that events MUST have BOTH Melee and Smash 4. I will say this. I won't attend ANY tourney that doesn't have Melee. I can't tell you what to do, so I won't tell you to do that too, but I just don't want to waist the time going to an event if my main game is not there.

I guess I just want confirmation from that Melee community that no matter how much people try to force Smash 4 into the lime-light that the Melee community will still work extra hard to keep Melee thriving. I don't want to lose Melee after having only been in the community for a year. Some of you have been in the Melee community for many years. I just got here and I really don't want to see Melee fall after only one short year after just joining the community. So I urge you, this coming year, with all the Smash 4 action, with it just coming out and being the new thing and it's rise being at the forefront, don't let Melee fall. Work extra hard to keep Melee alive. Let 2015 be just as big as 2014 was, maybe even bigger!

 

[EPsilon933]

Smash 4 at EVO benefits EVO more than Melee being at EVO would. EVO would get flooded with views on stream and massive exposure from a hype new game that recently released that's been hype by every serious gamer out there. It would also move Smash as a competitive series forward more

Imagine how much Nintendo would love their hyped new game to not be featured at the world's biggest fighting game tournament. That company would sure love to have Melee there instead

A game's popularity > how fun the game is. In 1 of Gandhi's video's (He's a former Halo 2/3 pro who then moved on to COD commentating and now works with the developers for Smite), he said that 85% of the revenue competitive gaming leagues make is from online ads. They want to host the games that promise the most views. Smash 4 promises a torrential flood of views for simply being new, as in not 13 years old that's been well played out. Gaming leagues are a business. Businesses want money

If we want Melee, PM, and Smash4 to coexist, we should not issolate our games from each other. Ideally, we should take advantage of players who overlap among multiple games. Having Melee hosted at the same events Smash 4's hosted at would create an easy bridge for new players to crossover and try Melee

There's a lot of hate for Melee? A lot of outspoken Melee players hate Smash 4 before the game even released. Is it equal on both sides?

The reason why Melee thrived so well is because Brawl sucked that hard. no other successful competitive series had a sequel that sucked as hard as Brawl. It hasn't been repeated elsewhere because of that factor. Except for Counter-Strike, maybe, but the split between CS1.6 and CSS ended up killing the whole CS community. And then CSGO revived it amazingly well

you are not everyone. People have so many variances among each other

Is Smash 4 being forced, or is Smash 4 simply better for the greatest number of people?

Melee is not facing imminent death. Smash 4 is only becoming the new primary competitive Smash game

 

[MookieRah]

Wow. I gotta say epsilon, that was a very evenhanded post coming from you. I didn't really expect it, but its a nice surprise.

Regarding the pressure of moving to the newest game, there was a post a while back mentioning that other fighting games receive support from the companies that made them in the competitive scene. This has been one of the primary reasons for pushing forward with a sequel that most competitive players consider worse. Since Smash's scene has had virtually no aid from Nintendo, the community has just done what it actually wanted to do.

Right now Nintendo is supporting Smash 4, but I imagine that after a year they will stop caring. They are really hoping for titles like Smash to sell WiiU's, and once Smash 4 is no longer so shiny and new they will likely push another title.

It remains to be seen whether or not Smash 4 will actually be the dominant smash or not. As it stands a lot of people aren't willing to commit to the cost of Nintendo's lackluster system just for the new smash title.