Kanto Tournament 2010 Video Topic (Opening Video + Nicovideo matches)

[th3kuzinator]

wow...the Japanese have some bad*** smiley faces.

 

[NixxxoN]

So Owata responded back to me saying

> Sorry for uploading to YouTube is not scheduled...
>
> Will give you the video file at a later date (^ω^)

in case anyone doesn't wanna mess with nicovideo >__> but maybe i'll get different quarterfinals vids to put up

oh man, so this means if we wanna see the vids we must register to nicovideo? -.-

 

[WOTG]

Registration is not that hard -_-
Just follow my average guide.... simple as that.

Everyone should watch the semi final match with Okaju(link) and Tsukuru(falcon), when okaju first lose two stocks, and then goes bananas

Lol the translations can't even translate Okaju's name in japanese writing(but i know it was him since earlier stated he was the link player), and gives you a weird and different name for Tsukuru... Couldn't even tell it was him, nice.

 

[Sempiternity]

I just don't understand why these vids can't be uploaded to a normal video site.

Yeah, I know: "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH"

but really

 

[AlexBarry2]

If you want to watch vids from niconicodouga use this redirector.
http://mmcafe.com/nico.html

 

[NixxxoN]

If you want to watch vids from niconicodouga use this redirector.
http://mmcafe.com/nico.html

Doesnt seem to work for me

 

[asianaussie]

replace 'nicovideo.jp' with 'www.nicozon.net' and try that url

 

[NixxxoN]

geez, it keeps on the same error =(

 

[asianaussie]

are you replacing the playlist url or the video url

try this direct link: http://www.nicozon.net/player.html?video_id=1173157671

works fine for me (even though i have a nnd account :3)

 

[NixxxoN]

Yes Its exactly the same, the same message appears and I dont know what it means, and I cant even translate it because i cant do copy-paste.

 

[AlexBarry2]

just paste the URL of the vid in the bar at the redirect

 

[NixxxoN]

Ok I managed to watch them at work, doesnt work at home

Very good link but YAAAAAAAAWWWWWWN KIRBY what a disgrace

The japanese version seems to be so frustratingly all about hitting one time -> dead. Even more than the USA version, almost no slide DI -.- How can you enjoy playing a match like that kirby ditto?

Also, I missed Jousuke, by far the best at the last tourney

 

[th3kuzinator]

in general watching kirbies bores me -_-

I like watching a fast ness or parry heavy yoshi.

That or just boomfans DK, it does things with a nair that should not be legal.

 

[Sempiternity]

Oh my dear god, that Kirby ditto! I got about 30 seconds in, realized it was only one match, and promptly went on to the next match.

 

[Battlecow]

Ok I managed to watch them at work, doesnt work at home

Very good link but YAAAAAAAAWWWWWWN KIRBY what a disgrace

The japanese version seems to be so frustratingly all about hitting one time -> dead. Even more than the USA version, almost no slide DI -.- How can you enjoy playing a match like that kirby ditto?

Also, I missed Jousuke, by far the best at the last tourney

The Japanese aren't big on the whole "play to have fun" side of things.

Okay, that's borderline racist and I don't have any idea what I'm talking about. But that's the impression I get.

 

[The Star King]

The Japanese aren't big on the whole "play to have fun" side of things.

Okay, that's borderline racist and I don't have any idea what I'm talking about. But that's the impression I get.

That's kind of ironic because in Melee they don't chaingrab, camp, or other things that are considered "gay", because there's no money on the line. But yeah, in this tournament they seemed to be playing gayer than most Americans, the opposite of Melee. Was money on the line for this tournament?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Come one now. When I play a really good link, it makes me want to gimp him all day, especially in a tournament situation. Honestly, to walk away with the win, the Kirby probably had to play like that. The link was really good.

 

[asianaussie]

link is probably at the bottom of mid tier in *** version if that makes a difference

his u-tilt is serious hax and his recovery is slightly better (if you play link a lot you will notice it lol)

 

[th3kuzinator]

link is probably at the bottom of mid tier in *** version if that makes a difference

his u-tilt is serious hax and his recovery is slightly better (if you play link a lot you will notice it lol)

Wtf was censored in that sentence? But yeah, his utilt going straight up is beast and his recovery has slightly more vertical iirc.

 

[Skrlx]

*** is offensive

please use "JP" in the future

 

[asianaussie]

its not just going straight up, it's freaking deadly, comboing falcon at 0%

also his air speed is slightly buffed, as is his D-Air/U-Air

j@p is censored because they are silly, so JP will have to do

 

[th3kuzinator]

Does it give more knockback? Or just have more hitstun?

 

[asianaussie]

well it has to have more knockback if falcon at 0% can be comboed

hitstun...i would assume a tad more because the move is still a little slow

 

[th3kuzinator]

I also seem to remember that kirby's upb goes higher and that they made his dsmash more legit.

There was another important thing that he had but I forget it. Well anyway, even though link becomes more legit so does kirby

Edit: OH YEAH, his fthrow is actually good now

 

[The Star King]

His dair does 2% more damage. Many of his moves have slightly more range. His sword is darker lol

 

[th3kuzinator]

His dair does 2% more damage. Many of his moves have slightly more range. His sword is darker lol

Link in the JP version does look more intimidating that in the American version.

I also find the sound effects in the JP version more legit. They are just so....meaty.

 

[Battlecow]

*** is offensive

please use "JP" in the future

I like how j-p is offending people, but you can say f-g or "gay" in the "lame" sense all day on these boards and receive nary a glare. You people read too many of those WWII Japanese internment camp books in elementary school.

 

[ciaza]

Does it give more kockback? Or just have more hitstun?

ha ha immaturity...

I dislike Link's utilt in (J), it takes away combo potential at higher percents but it more than makes up for it obviously at lower percents. Regardless I have more fun with the less knockback of (U).

 

[th3kuzinator]

Immaturity? Wait, what? I asked a serious question there -_-. I figured that maybe the utilt did not deal more knockback but just gave the opponent more hitstun/was a quicker move.

I have never played that J version before, only seen videos

 

[Skrlx]

I like how j-p is offending people, but you can say f-g or "gay" in the "lame" sense all day on these boards and receive nary a glare. You people read too many of those WWII Japanese internment camp books in elementary school.

AMERICA PIG

I like what ciaza did. I'm going to say (J) now. ****... I love australia!

P.S. JP is still acceptable

 

[ciaza]

Immaturity? Wait, what? I asked a serious question there -_-. I figured that maybe the utilt did not deal more knockback but just gave the opponent more hitstun/was a quicker move.

I have never played that J version before, only seen videos

Read what I quoted you again, noting your spelling error in red that I found humourous

I like what ciaza did. I'm going to say (J) now. ****... I love australia!

=D

 

[th3kuzinator]

.......Wow I was tired last night.

How did I not notice that when you even highlighted it...

Fail.

 

[dandan]

Does it give more knockback? Or just have more hitstun?

The Japanese version has less hitlag, thus link can start a second utilt sooner than in NTSC.
The change might feel small, or is hard to notice, but it has a great effect.
It is also the reason why ness fair chains are move viable.

 

[th3kuzinator]

The Japanese version has less hitlag, thus link can start a second utilt sooner than in NTSC.
The change might feel small, or is hard to notice, but it has a great effect.
It is also the reason why ness fair chains are move viable.

Does that mean Kirby's utilt is even faster?

 

[dandan]

yes, though it changes little, it is as broken in NTSC anyhow.

 

[The Star King]

The Japanese version has less hitlag, thus link can start a second utilt sooner than in NTSC.
The change might feel small, or is hard to notice, but it has a great effect.
It is also the reason why ness fair chains are move viable.

Um Link can mostly do utilt chains at lower percents because of increased knockback and a straight vertical trajectory. These factors make way more of a difference than less hitlag does >_>

 

[dandan]

Um Link can mostly do utilt chains at lower percents because of increased knockback and a straight vertical trajectory. These factors make way more of a difference than less hitlag does >_>

but the fact you can shield pressure with utilts is less affected by those factors.

 

[The Star King]

More knockback = More shieldstun. It's still affected.

 

[dandan]

guess i have a few things to learn, good i just play the (u) version and do not need to think about it

 

[3mmanu3lrc]

Can anyone post the links of the kanto Tournament of the nikovideo's site, i still don't know japanese, i'll study it this next year.......
but please, the links if you please!!!