Jump Cancel Upsmash vs. Run Cancel Upsmash

[Str8Bustr]

Just a quick question, is it better to do one over the other? As far as I know, JC upsmash is more common out of run, but i can get somewhat more reliable upsmashes out of run by run canceling (down canceling?) with the control stick and charging the upsmash with the C-stick and Z. Just curious if it comes down to preference or if it's faster frame wise to one or the other. Thanks!

 

[Seal]

I'm pretty sure that jump cancelling is something like 1 frame faster, but I still do run cancelled stuff because I find it much easier.

 

[Str8Bustr]

Thst's kinda what it seems like to me

 

[Pauer]

It depends on how quickly you cancel the jump(squat). At best, JC upsmash is like 1 or 2 frames faster so speed really doesn't matter. But I'm certain that you slide further with a JC up smash than with a run canceled one so in that sense you can get to where you want to hit faster. Also, if you want to do an upsmash very close to you, like f-tilt range, you can only do that with a JC upsmash so it's usually better imo.

 

[Str8Bustr]

Ahhh I just realized, you can JC upsmash out of dash, you can't run cancel a dash. I guess considering Sheik's measly dash range, you can get away with doing the run cancel, but I think I might just get it in my head to JC everytime

 

[Squeemos]

I feel jump cancelling is even easier than dash cancelling, I just put both the c stick and the control stick up. Plus the advantages of sliding and it's quicker.

 

[Jackson]

Like Pauer said, the part about not being able to run cancel Usmash out of a dash makes JC Usmash probably better to master. I haven't got it down myself yet but, for example, a really optimal punish on Marth(when there's no platforms) off dthrow that gets you a tipper Usmash requires JC Usmash if he DIs slightly in front or no DIs.