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I love when we use arguments that didn't even hold up for the Brawl full roster leak.
I love when valid points are dismissed haplessly under the guise of holding greater merit.
It's not valid in the slightest. Popular characters are added to every Smash game, but this in no way means that characters will be added because they are popular. If popularity is so important then why do wave have Rosalina, WFT, Duck Hunt over Ghirahim, Krystal, Paper Mario? Why was R.O.B. in over Geno in Brawl? Because one of them deserved to be in and the other didn't. Characters are picked based on whether they are deserving, not whether they are popular. In Melee and Brawl everybody screamed and cried and refused to believe the roster when it was revealed, saying that there was no way their wanted characters were snubbed over characters almost nobody asked for. So what's so different this time? There's already been a lot of hype newcomers so there will be more? Look at Brawl's starting newcomers (plus Sonic and Snake) and tell me those aren't hype characters. Now look at the entire cast of newcomers who were not revealed. Lucario (...but no Mewtwo), Wolf (...but no Krystal), another Link, and R.O.B. So much hype!
Maybe because those characters represent different series.... : / and maybe because Rosalina is super popular..... and maybe because Ghirahim isn't as popular as you think.....
Ridley's probably not as popular as you think.
hahahahahahahahhaahahhahahhahahahahhahahah don't even try to compare the two
I would argue that they could be easily compared. Both will most likely not be playable characters.
No, I just find it incredibly unlikely.
Could they be time locked?
He did. It was "Congratulations! You have unlocked all the characters!"
Ridley has been been teased as a stage boss since April (he was made as a boss only in Brawl too), K Rool is an irrelevant villain who nintendo decided not to be in any games for years, and Mewtwo had already been cut in Brawl. Are you telling me you didn't see this coming? if not, you were expecting too much.
Dr. Mario was also cut in Brawl. That point is actually irrelevant now.
yes but how many other cut Melee veterans returned aside from Dr. Mario? exactly....
Dr. Mario broke the "rule" that cut characters couldn't return. That means it's not impossible for others to return as well.
I'm over it but you do realize that this is actually a thread based upon those characters being in right? If you came into this thread honestly expecting no one to be upset about Ridley, K Rool, or Mewtwo then you're the one who needs to get over themselves. I'm telling you I didn't see this coming because of the polls that were made after brawl in which every top 5 member of both USA and Japan have made it except those 3, so I assumed it would be possible. Either way the game isn't really about relevancy otherwise we wouldn't have Bowser Jr, Duck Hunt Dog, or R.O.B.; besides if the premise is Nintendo All Stars it isn't exactly far fetched to assume that we would get some actual all star characters. Also you're wrong about Dr Mario, if you can honestly tell everyone that you expected Wii Fit Trainer, then you're even dumber than your posts would imply.
And Dr. Mario was a character almost nobody cared to have back where mewtwo was a fan favorite. Also your point about ridley is true on the boss tease but he also teased about how size didnt matter in smash too. The big 3 were left out over 3 clones.
okay then, link me to where this was said and where Ridley was mentioned with that quote.
But it shouldn't be a big shock if a cut character didn't return. It should be a surprise if they did. So Mewtwo not being back isn't a surprise to me.
You have no reason to believe that. I thought perhaps today would have served as a warning against believing something because you want it to be true.
mentioned but just google smash pic of the day size doesn't matter and I didn't mention ridley so dont try to add on. Him and the other two were clearly most wanted by the polls so ya we were expecting at least one of themokay then, link me to where this was said and where Ridley was mentioned with that quote.
But it shouldn't be a big shock if a cut character didn't return. It should be a surprise if they did. So Mewtwo not being back isn't a surprise to me.
and i'm pretty sure they probably originally had Dr. Mario (and Dark Pit/Lucina) as an alt costume instead but since his attacks had different properties, they couldn't do that. Which would explain his "return". Its definitely not an intentional return.
Mewtwo is an original character and therefore harder to implement. Therefore, i'm not shocked he didn't come back instead of Dr. Mario
Duck Hunt Dog is an iconic retro game character. The retro characters like Megaman/IceClimbers/LittleMac/Pacman/etc. don't have to be relevant unlike K Rool who isn't even the main protagonist of his series, Bowser Jr (like Rosalina) has been in recent nintendo games at least unlike K. Rool, and R.O.B. is a weird footnote in nintendo history (aka his relevency doesn't matter either).
and just because a character is "popular" and "requested" doesn't mean they'll get in
And when pray tell was Duck Hunt Dog's last game? Because if I remember correctly it was for the NES whereas if I remember correctly King K Rool has been in main story DKC games up to N64 and spinoffs a bit more recently but of course that doesn't matter correct because the Donkey Kong games were so long ago and hardly even sold, dumbass. I realise that Duck Hunt Dog is a big part of nintendo history but so is King K Rool also the protagonist thing you said makes sense which is the same reason why Bowser Ganondorf or King Dedede will never be part of smash bros they just aren't the main protagonists through and through. Outside of sarcasm because your points are relatively placed on shaky ground I will concede Bowser Jr as I totally forgot about Galaxy games. And also I know that a character doesn't need to be popular to get in otherwise this whole damn conversation wouldn't be going on. My point was that the polls had no relevance if they were just going to be ignored. I've got to say man you're pretty pathetic if your idea of a good time is attempting to stomp on other people's preferences; presumably we are all adults here, although judging by how you have very little comprehension of manners I would hazard to guess that you simply have nothing better to do than try to break down other people, which by the way is hardly working majority of people here are over this already except you as you seem to believe that because you predicted characters right on a video game that you are somehow superior to others which is just as sad as you spending time here in the first place now I'm done wasting my breath/okay then, link me to where this was said and where Ridley was mentioned with that quote.
But it shouldn't be a big shock if a cut character didn't return. It should be a surprise if they did. So Mewtwo not being back isn't a surprise to me.
and i'm pretty sure they probably originally had Dr. Mario (and Dark Pit/Lucina) as an alt costume instead but since his attacks had different properties, they couldn't do that. Which would explain his "return". Its definitely not an intentional return.
Mewtwo is an original character and therefore harder to implement. Therefore, i'm not shocked he didn't come back instead of Dr. Mario
Duck Hunt Dog is an iconic retro game character. The retro characters like Megaman/IceClimbers/LittleMac/Pacman/etc. don't have to be relevant unlike K Rool who isn't even the main protagonist of his series, Bowser Jr (like Rosalina) has been in recent nintendo games at least unlike K. Rool, and R.O.B. is a weird footnote in nintendo history (aka his relevency doesn't matter either).
and just because a character is "popular" and "requested" doesn't mean they'll get in
Duck Hunt = retro = relevancy doesn't matter.... even with that said. Duck Hunt is very iconic back in the olden days.
Looks like I was indeed incorrect in comparing Ghirahim to Ridley. At least Sakurai thought Ghirahim was important enough to be an AT in this game.
3rd, actually. People weren't happy to hear we got Pichu and Young Link and Mr. Game & Watch and what was presumed to be Roy Koopa in Melee.
? implying that assist trophy is better than Boss. It still does not justify a comparison either.
So remember last December when we had this reaction from the community? Or hell; when I was made fun of in this thread for supporting Toad and Bandana Dee whilst warning this would happen?
Pssssh, as if you could make a Ridley "hat" that wouldn't cover the entire plaza and stage with its size. Huehuehue.
