Is there a reason no one does this?

[TemPesT-]

shine to dtilt

it can pop ppl up into grab height at certain percents, and leads to easy kills at higher percents. but i always just see ppl use jab <_< can anyone explain?

 

[bahamutz69]

lots of reasons.
the pop up from the dtilt is easy to di away from and the attack itself can be avoided aswell.
jabs are a way to tack on % then easily grab.
ppl also just JC grabs.
also usmash for a kill at the right %.
also because doing a dtilt could stop the moment from the WS due to crouching.

there are just better alternatives.

 

[Alphicans]

I use shine to dtilt lots. It's good for a guranteed hit, and has a chance to combo well. The reason no one uses it? Jab reset, to grab or uair is better .

 

[RaynEX]

lots of reasons.
the pop up from the dtilt is easy to di away from and the attack itself can be avoided aswell.
jabs are a way to tack on % then easily grab.
ppl also just JC grabs.
also usmash for a kill at the right %.
also because doing a dtilt could stop the moment from the WS due to crouching.

there are just better alternatives.

People generally d.i. away from the shine to begin with, so like you said - they accidentally d.i. the dtilt far away from you.

While that is bad, it doesn't matter because Fox is fast as hell and can still nair or grab afterwards at certain percents.

I'd take dtilt or jab vs. Marth/Sheik/Peach/Samus/Luigi. Basically anyone that can CC dsmash or CC grab you. Good Marths CC jabs to grab and you lose your stock. Same with Sheik...except she techchases you and gimps you somewhere along the line.

Jab sets you up for CCing, wheras dtilt can't be CCed after a certain percent. I guess it is safer...but grabs/usmashes are what should be done after waveshines anyways. Stick to that if you want to get the job done.

 

[SpaceFalcon]

I never D-Tilt lol unless it's by mistake and thats only like once a year. :]

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

Yhea it's easy to DI away from the follow up/combo. That's why people don't use it
I do it sometimes against samus's and other chars that you can't uthrow combo, but even then it usually won't work lol

I use it out of CC sometimes, then it's actually pretty good (cuz they almost never DI it), can lead to grab like you said or uairs or nairs (or bairs or dairs lol. fox rules). d-tilt->shffl nair->turnaround uptilt is sexy

 

[TemPesT-]

mmk thx guys. i'll toy with it in real matches to see where it gets me =]

 

[Binx]

I never shine to dtilt but sometimes I dtilt against Marth because if he is doing a falling fair at about medium height you can barely duck under it and catch him with this, since he would usually be DIing towards you for this to work he goes about strait up and it combos into an upair.