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Is super armor cheap?

upwndbykaiibi

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Listen everybody I was just browsing on youtube looking for some brawl glitches, and I stumbled upon this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_OHABU2cPs&NR=1

It reminded me of how super armor can really save you in a match, but I was thinking. Is using super armor in a match a cheating way or a cheap way to win a match? For example...


Olimar's-down special
Olimar's super armor has to be the easiest to do. On the count that when he gets caught in marth's final smash all you have to do is to press down b to save a death. It is also perfect to protect yourself from a falcon punch or a warlock punch.


Ike's-Up special, and regular special
Now, not only is ike's super armor hard to do he has two different kinds super armor. His eruption which can save you from a quick smash attack. For example marth's side b smash, if your on high percentage you can do the eruption special (regular b special) to not only save your death but to counter your opponent as well. Now this maybe the same thing as his down special, but I don't really count that as a super armor. His next super armor is his up special. Although this super armor maybe easier to do than the eruption, it can give your opponent a huge opportunity to attack when you come back down from the air.


Pit's-down special
Even though this was in the video for a split second, pit does have a super armor.(If you didn't see the super armor it is on the time lines of:2:12-2:14) Now, Pit's super armor is his down b special. This may seem very tough to do, but with perfect timing pit can be protected against almost every attack.


Snake's-Up special
Snake's super armor is not technically cheating or being cheap, because his super armor can only be done in the air for airborne attacks, and protect himself from smart bombs.


Yoshi's-Double jump
Even though this super armor wasn't in the video yoshi still has a super armor. All you have to do is to double jump and it is immediately activated. But still, it's not really being cheap because it protects himself from airborne attacks for a short time period. BTW this can also be used to avoid final smashes such as marth's and gannondorf's. Even though it will hit you, you will still be protected. But I don't know if it will protect you with gannondorf's final smash.


Wario's-Side smash
Wario's super armor was kind of new to me, considering the fact that Wario never gets hit while doing his side smash. All you basically got to do is do a side smash attack with wario in any direction and he has a super armor activated. Even though he rarely can't get hit while doing this move, this super armor is perfect for protecting him against smart bombs.


Charizard's-Up special
I think Charizards up special is one of the easiest one to do too. Although again, I don't really consider this cheap because it is airborne. Again another super armor perfect for smart bombs and marth's final smash.


Squirtle's-Side special
Squirtle's super armor has to be the best one ever. Only because of three reasons. One, he doesn't flinch at all, duh. Two, his super armor is mobile! Three, this super armor does not gain any damage! Now this does have to be a cheap way to win a match if your facing a tough opponent. There's only two down side's about this super armor. One is once you get hit, you go in the other direction, but really fast. This may save a death for you, but this can also be a quick death also at the end. The other one is with perfect timing your opponent will jump on you during the super armor causing Squirtle to flip over. This gives your opponent a huge opportunity to hit back, especially when you have a high percentage count.


King dedede's-Up special
This is just another airborne super armor that is perfect for smart bombs. Although still no one would try to hit you, or they would be hit back. But, there is one weak point in this super armor. If you hit King ddd on the bottom of him he will get hit, but there's a catch. You would need to have perfect timing to hit him without getting hit back. So it's really a choice of, "I'll leave him be and wait for an opportunity." or "I'll take my chances and hit him for a small percentage." So yeah King ddd's super armor is pretty good.


So is super armor really cheap, or is it just a great way to great way to turn the tables in a match?^^

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Mortal King

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I really think that snakes super armor is cheap because of two reasons,
1. you hit him he doesn't flinch, duh
2.he's in the air which gives you a harder time to hit him T. T
 

_Sync_

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I personally don't think it's cheap. How often is that a player perfectly times their super armor frames in the heat of a battle?

If you're having trouble with Super Armor, then mess around with the opponents sense of timing such as throwing the projectile at a different time, or rather than just flicking that C-stick for a quick smash, just charge it up. Also, despite how good super armor is, the character is still vulnerable to grabs.
 

BATTL3B3AR

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IMO i think it isn't cheap. Wario's forward smash carries a super amor for about .4 seconds. I use it to absorb attacks and projectiles and i think its very tactical
 

Moozle

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If it takes practice and skill to use, then it's not cheap. And it's not like they're missing being hit at all because they are still taking damage. I'm a little confused about what would be seen as cheap about it.
 

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No Wario Fsmash? Or DK punch?

None of it's cheap because you still take regular damage. Nothing in this game is cheap. I almost forgot that it's bad of you to use any advantages you might have to win.
 

ConCeal12

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Ah, this super armor thing. Yea I tried using Ike and you could actually survive marths Final Smash at 200%+ lol, but still suffer around 60% damage

No Wario Fsmash? Or DK punch?

None of it's cheap because you still take regular damage. Nothing in this game is cheap. I almost forgot that it's bad of you to use any advantages you might have to win.
I agree to that, mostly because those so called cheap stuff like jab lock and super armor are hard to pull off and require lots of practice to pull of in a real fight
 
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