Is Smash 4 more sexual than other Nintendo games?

[Pyra]

You greatly overestimate the attractiveness of people at the beqch.

No, I'm saying they're also pretty low on the scale.

Which is to say, Smash 4's place on the scale is significantly lower than that.

 

[Malkior7]

sorry bayonetta 2 takes that cake

 

[aliensalmon]

I can see how the pole dancing could be sexual but I don't think it's a big deal, personally.

 

[Crawfish]

i don't think it's that bad, maybe it's fun swinging around like that? i mean, all she did was spin there.
palutena's reveal though, i noticed that. but that wasn't the smash team was it? they did approve it but that's it.

 

[PurpleSpaceDragon]

To be honest I feel like that won't be the case in the more HD version of the game.

The "black void" would look terrible on Wii U, with it's vastly-increased detail and image size.

Seeing a huge black spot intermittently appear on the screen amidst the frantic action of Smash Bros would not only be distracting, but it would also make lots of people think that graphics are glitching out or that the devs forgot to add her legs.

So I agree that they'll find another "solution". Hopefully they'll come to the obvious conclusion that censoring characters' legs at all is incredibly stupid.

There's nothing wrong with legs....heck, she could wear white pants / capris if they're that opposed to showing Peach's skin or the frilly undies from Brawl.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

Well it has Rosalina in it so it automatically is for me. Also this:

Friendly reminder that Sakurai went out of his way to give us a close up of a passed out Rosalina with a pretty lewd looking face. There is a certain term I could apply to her lips here but it's outside of this sites boundaries.

I don't think this stuff is harmful though, I don't get why people make a fuss about it (well, a negative fuss at least...the picture above fussed me alright, but in a good way). Nintendo have some beautiful women. Let them show it off, within moderation. Most of it is pretty much up to interpretation anyway. Personally, I'm baffled by people singling out ZSS's alt costume as sexual, as it is not inherently so (she just owns the look - like how Rosalina owns the biker look in MK8). And while Shulk's alt costume would be hot or sexually arousing to some people, I honestly took it as more of an inside joke for Xenoblade fans, especially because of how it was shown off in the trailer.

I mean why would you complain about fanservice in a game that's all about fanservice, of all kinds?:

Just so happens that some of it is more sexually suggestive in it's nature:

And that's OK.

Also, a note about Peach's undergarments not being in the 3DS version - that's likely only the 3DS version that's effected. Her Amiibo has those full legs and undergarments. It's likely in the Wii U version too, in that case. Don't know why it's not in the 3DS version, maybe they found animating her full legs around the dress in the 3DS version more difficult due to the lower poly model. Rosalina's cosmic underside is in both versions though, and you can briefly see "the cosmos beneath her gown" in the CGI portion of her trailer, as it's thematic and is an....interesting display of the power she has a cosmic goddess. While I would have had NOOOOO objection to truly seeing the... "cosmos" beneath her gown, I actually really like what they did with her. It's kinda hot in it's own way, it's a cute tease for the curious, and shows just how amazing and absurd her abilities can get, something that's very hard to convince people of because they don't pay enough attention to her in Galaxy.

As for Palutena's pole dance - pole dancing is not inherently a sexual thing, as it is a genuine gymnastic exercise. However, it's blatantly a sexual tease with Palutena. We haven't seen her display gymnastic prowess at all in any other game (and this is the only instance of it even in Smash 4), she's wearing clothing that very nearly reveals her bare buttocks when she does the pole dance, she has a flirty and sultry little giggle when she does it, and Palutena is known to be conscious of her good body, and is insulted when Phospora claims she's "an old granny" in Uprising, and they get into a verbal cat fight over it. Not to mention all of the fanservice she gets when SHAFT animates her.

Oh GOD, I've been looking at 3DS footage all weekend. I forgot how beautiful this game was supposed to look. Thank you.

The 3DS couldn't handle Peach's panties. Wii U exclusive.

 

[Yarlick]

In what way? I must know... For science... Yes, science...

They could have just toned down the "black hole area" to the minimum...Wait...Forget that...It would be as horrible as that....

 

[Flaxr XIII]

Some people would see pole dancing as athletic rather than sexual. Seriously, Palutena's taunt= Top notch athelticism. Seems she's been training with WFT.

2 am after an 8 hour shift at work. No idea what the **** I'm saying

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

Some people would see pole dancing as athletic rather than sexual. Seriously, Palutena's taunt= Top notch athelticism. Seems she's been training with WFT.

2 am after an 8 hour shift at work. No idea what the **** I'm saying

Try 2 AM in the middle of a 12 hour...

I don't really think so. Nintendo likes to include its little innuendos. True, they're somewhat "concentrated" in smash, but not to an obscene degree.

Now, if the American version has Villager talking about Palutena's boingy-bits, then I'll change my vote.

 

[AidanTheGreat]

Yes theres probably been a bajilion threads regarding Zero Suit Samus but I'm here to talk about something thats kinda related to that ish.

Do you think Smash 4 is more sexual than other Nintendo games? I mean, you have Shulk fighting in his undies, Zero Suit Samus's everything and Sakurai displaying that he really REALLLLY wants to bone Palutena all of a sudden. There have been sexual references to things in Nintendo games before (The hidden nude woman in Kirby's Dream Land 2 comes to mind) but I don't think they've ever been as blatant about it as they have in Smash 4. What do you think?
with games like Fire Emblem Awakening and Hyrule Warriors what if Nintendo is becoming one of THOSE companies...

Interesting you talk about kirby having a nude woman. That's one of Sakurai's games. Palutena is also one of his characters as kid icarus uprising is his game. Conspiracy? I think not. Sakurai wants to bone all of his characters probably. That includes pit and dark pit, oh and kirby. Orgy confirmed.

 

[Pyra]

People are going to try to find the star cluster that looks like boobs in Rosalina's skirt space.

 

[Curious Villager]

The "black void" would look terrible on Wii U, with it's vastly-increased detail and image size.

Seeing a huge black spot intermittently appear on the screen amidst the frantic action of Smash Bros would not only be distracting, but it would also make lots of people think that graphics are glitching out or that the devs forgot to add her legs.
So I agree that they'll find another "solution". Hopefully they'll come to the obvious conclusion that censoring characters' legs at all is incredibly stupid.

There's nothing wrong with legs....heck, she could wear white pants / capris if they're that opposed to showing Peach's skin or the frilly undies from Brawl.

To be fair, they kinda already did this black void thing with Toon Link on the Wii U version. (Though they apparently didn't as far as I know for the 3DS version....)

 

[Flaxr XIII]

I'm surprised Palutena's taunt wasn't shown in the ESRB leaks that showed off all the "sexual" content in the game. Just goes to show that this pole dance was meant for athletic purposes
Then again, neither was Sexy Shorts Samus, or SSS

 

[Yarlick]

It's only for athletic purpose that Samus has that Sexy Short of course x)

 

[Flaxr XIII]

Yus. If Sexy Shorts wasn't brought up on the ESRB, then it wasn't sexual enough.

 

[Doc.Pringles]

Needs 'BRAZZERS' on the bottom..

 

[Mighty_Guy100]

 

[Morbi]

Not really, I do not see any of the sexual implications to be honest. The most overt one was during Palutena's trailer, but that is not necessarily an aspect of the game. Shulk or Zero Suit Samus' costumes are not sexual by nature. As the poll mentions, they actually removed Peach's panties from the game. It seems as though this is the opposite scenario. It is less sexual than other Nintendo games.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well it has Rosalina in it so it automatically is for me. Also this:

It is pretty odd how some people will depict such a screenshot like that as being suggestive. Rosalina just looks so relaxed there.

 

[ChikoLad]

It is pretty odd how some people will depict such a screenshot like that as being suggestive. Rosalina just looks so relaxed there.

She does. A bit too relaxed.

Though I think the screenshot would be a lot less suggestive if her mouth was not the way it is, and if the rest of her body was visible (ironically).

 

[Skyfox2000]

Wonder why people are so Sexually Attractive to Fictional Characters?

 

[ChikoLad]

Just realised:

No more Snake butt shots.

Wonder why people are so Sexually Attractive to Fictional Characters?

I want to give a serious answer to this but something is telling me I shouldn't.

 

[Skyfox2000]

Just realised:

No more Snake butt shots.



I want to give a serious answer to this but something is telling me I shouldn't.

Go on.

 

[Mataata]

I'm just happy there's more than three female characters for once. being lesbian also helps.
It also bugs me that there's this big black hole under Peach's dress. Really? Are people really that protective that they aren't accepting of women's underwear?
I could go on an entire rant about how women are all hush-hushed in media when men are blatantly over-sexualized even more. Nearly-naked Shulk and burly, muscle-touting men is "acceptable" while Samus in her full-body catsuit that covers everything but her face is considered lewd and disgusting. So what, the girl's got breasts and curves? Get over it.

 

[simpleglitch]

Wonder why people are so Sexually Attractive to Fictional Characters?

It is because of our non-fictional bodies

 

[ChikoLad]

I'm just happy there's more than three female characters for once. being lesbian also helps.
It also bugs me that there's this big black hole under Peach's dress. Really? Are people really that protective that they aren't accepting of women's underwear?
I could go on an entire rant about how women are all hush-hushed in media when men are blatantly over-sexualized even more. Nearly-naked Shulk and burly, muscle-touting men is "acceptable" while Samus in her full-body catsuit that covers everything but her face is considered lewd and disgusting. So what, the girl's got breasts and curves? Get over it.

Peach's dress is only a void in the 3DS version, due to technical limitations. Her Amiibo has the full legs and underwear. So the Wii U game likely will too.

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And I'll explain the "people are attracted to fictional characters" thing tomorrow. I'm on my phone right now.

 

[Crawfish]

asked my mom if the palutena taunt looked bad.
she said no. told her what people thought it looked like, she disagreed.
only crazy people who over-react to everything or people with sexual things on their mind seem to be the only ones giving this any attention.
her reveal was one thing, but the taunt really isn't that bad. not bad at all if you ask me.

 

[Skyfox2000]

asked my mom if the palutena taunt looked bad.
she said no. told her what people thought it looked like, she disagreed.
only crazy people who over-react to everything or people with sexual things on their mind seem to be the only ones giving this any attention.
her reveal was one thing, but the taunt really isn't that bad. not bad at all if you ask me.

Well technically for her to be a "Pole Dancer" her Pole would have to be physically attached to the ground which it isn't.

 

[Kriven]

Let's not forget that the Japanese version of Mario Power Tennis gave Peach a thong and made her ass jiggle at every opportunity.

Whatever light amount of fanservice is in Smash 4 (and seriously, that "poledancing" taunt could easily not be what we're thinking it is. She really isn't moving like a poledancer--in fact, it looks her leg is cutting right through the staff) does not exceed Nintendo's previous uses.

I'm just happy there's more than three female characters for once. being lesbian also helps.
It also bugs me that there's this big black hole under Peach's dress. Really? Are people really that protective that they aren't accepting of women's underwear?
I could go on an entire rant about how women are all hush-hushed in media when men are blatantly over-sexualized even more. Nearly-naked Shulk and burly, muscle-touting men is "acceptable" while Samus in her full-body catsuit that covers everything but her face is considered lewd and disgusting. So what, the girl's got breasts and curves? Get over it.

It's not about prudishness anymore, now it's about feminism.
Modern feminists will complain if male developers create a game or situation in the game where one can see Peach's panties. They'll scream "male gaze" and demand a lynching.

 

[Xcano]

They must be modernizing

 

[Big-Cat]

Who cares?

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

So I browsed this redundant thread for 2 pages just because I was looking for contention PoVs? Screw it, I'll fester this carcass!

Please, dont bring your equality and moral to these forums.

Its enough everything, absolutely every aspect of our society is infected with this disease of morality. Let the gaming be at least the only place where everything can happen without boundaries nor critics.

Mods if it is possible, close this thread that would only ignite flames.

Dood, where have you been? Hah, the disease in our society comes from a lack of morals!

Surprised you haven't asserted your ignorance elsewhere in this thread. Games progressing deeper into artistic boundaries opens up the conversation to critics and scholars. It's the demand for restriction of such expression that gives you the politically-correct SJWs.

It's not about prudishness anymore, now it's about feminism.
Modern feminists will complain if male developers create a game or situation in the game where one can see Peach's panties. They'll scream "male gaze" and demand a lynching.

Mataata's post speaks of the feminism that would ideally respect a woman's choice of attire rather than restrict it. Y'know, like the vocal minority 3rd wave feminists.

I mean, just look how the gaming press covered ZSS's Zero Mission alt costume. Ugh. -_-

Wonder why people are so Sexually Attractive to Fictional Characters?

Sonicbrawler will probably articulate a more elaborate response, but here's a thing. People can be aroused by corporeal or fictional, animated women. But when people start to yearn for fictional women like they're real is when they cross the line.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

Peach's dress is only a void in the 3DS version, due to technical limitations. Her Amiibo has the full legs and underwear. So the Wii U game likely will too.

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And I'll explain the "people are attracted to fictional characters" thing tomorrow. I'm on my phone right now.

It's tomorrow. Explain.

 

[Crawfish]

It's not about prudishness anymore, now it's about feminism.
Modern feminists will complain if male developers create a game or situation in the game where one can see Peach's panties. They'll scream "male gaze" and demand a lynching.

i kinda meant modern feminists when i said crazy people <:
please don't kill me everybody! >,:

 

[DunnoBro]

Does being more, or less sexual effect how good the game is? No? Then why should anyone care?

 

[Rich Homie Quan]

Wait they removed Peach's Underwear?

Yep, she doesn't wear any anymore.

Spoiler

 

[StupendousMike]

For Nintendo, maybe a little. For games in general, not even close. I mean, everyone threw a fit when they gave Samus heels, then later when they revealed her alt costume, but come on. She's not Ivy or Kitana.

 

[Zol]

this thread smells like ball sweat and doritos

 

[yahooda]

asked my mom if the palutena taunt looked bad.
she said no. told her what people thought it looked like, she disagreed.
only crazy people who over-react to everything or people with sexual things on their mind seem to be the only ones giving this any attention.
her reveal was one thing, but the taunt really isn't that bad. not bad at all if you ask me.

I agree completely. I saw no problems with Palutena's taunt and didn't think anything of it until I read a youtube comment saying it looked like she was pole dancing.

 

[mini paincakes]

Captain Falcon and Ike are way too sexual and force unreasonable stereotypes on men. How am I supposed to get girls with manly men like them roaming around?

Sakurai needs to step down as director for making these guys way too sexy for a kids' game. Too sexy for a rated M game even.