Is Marth honestly that bad of a character? Or is it the player?

[SterlingMaroon]

I've seen many people bump down Marth to the end of the tier list (kinda a shot fired to us Marth mains). But honestly, is Marth all that bad?
I've found that a good way to use a Marth us just by mind games.
I have seen a ton of Marth players play him perfectly, constantly snagging wins, and hardly losing. He's not frequently seen in the competitive scene anymore (for Smash 4, that is), but is it just that the players can't manipulate him properly?
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Debate: Is Marth a horrible competitive choice?
I still believe Marth should be much higher up on the tier list, and many people have just ignored him completely just because they can't find his full potential.

 

[Jellydino]

I think you should go to the Marth general and post this question. This doesn't seem like the area for that

http://smashboards.com/forums/marth.416/

 

[Sucumbio]

Moved to smash 4 Marth discussion, thx