Is less really more?

[joepinion]

I agree, clones can be fun. I mean, clones like Pichu, Dr. Mario, and Young Link are just unnessisary, but when you can have an entirely new character, like Luigi, Falco, and Ganondorf, they can be a good thing. Granted, I still think Ganondorf deserves an entirely unique moveset.

Of course, that goes without saying. However, if he does have a sweet new moveset, I will still look back fondly at the ole Melee Ganondorf, not with disdain.

As far as Luigi goes, he's not even close to being a clone.

Most rosters that are over 40 are taking almost every viable candidate and really filling the roster out. This game will not truly leave us "full" like a Taco Bell meal as far as character selection goes, just as Melee didn't.

Characters like Dedede, and KKR, and a bunch of FE characters, and Krystal and Wolf.... Yes, I know they would be cool to have but none of their chances are over 33%. (Yes, that is an exact calculation.)

 

[Talendime]

Less is less. More is more. I was hoping to see atleast 50 characters this time... :/

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

I don't think I like your attitude towards FE characters joepinion. There is definitely going to be at least 1 FE character, probably 2. This is not even considering the castle level in Brawl which people claim is from FE, but the only symbol comparatively like it is Marth's, but it's not the same.

Anyway, I think Sakurai is putting so much emphasis on every aspect of the game, that he is satisfied with "Less is More" theory.

"Quality over Quantity"
This is what I believe Sakurai is going for. Unfortunately, I now join the negative nancies in saying that I don't think the selection of anything will be greater than Melee, except for items and game modes obviously.

Otherwise, stages might get a similar amount, but I really don't think so, but this is only because the new stages seem to have been given 1000x more attention than Melee stages. For some reason I don't see him doing "Past Stages," either. Maybe Fountain of Dreams and the like, but still I doubt it.

 

[EggBomb]

I'm pulling for around 36 characters this time around. I feel like it is a good character amount and would allow time for balancing characters.

 

[skullkidd]

Kabyk; you have a point there; Quality over Quantity

The graphics in this game are incredible by Wii standards, every character, included Assist trophies, have had excellent designs.

But, I'm still predicting the character number to be in the high 30s, seeing as the time that is being taken to complete the game.

 

[Bowserlick]

Alright. I predicted that (Roy, Pichu, Doctor Mario, Falco, ICs, GandW, Sheik, Jiggs and Luigi will be taken out). That brings the roster from 26 to 17. I then guess that there would be 15 new characters which would bring Brawl's roster up to 32.

But I remember reading on a translation that Sakurai may reveal every character before the game comes out because people will find out anyways.

So let us say that he stays with his word and does this. We have 13 revealed characters on the website. We have about 4 months exactly left until the release. (4 weeks in 4 months so 16 weeks).

Each week a character is revealed. Let us say he sticks with that pattern.

16 plus 13 is 29.

But I used many assumptions to get to that number, but it is not to far off from my predicted number of 32.

 

[Shuma]

Wait....


Aren't you the supporter of Andross?

Yeah... i think i can safely assume Falco, Jigg and Luigi are returning.

 

[Bowserlick]

They might return, but maybe not as playable characters.

Although I admit, I am streching logic a little my predicting Luigi will not be playable.

But honestly I don't think he adds all that much.

 

[Ogre_Deity_Link]

Is less more?

No. More is more. Learn your Engrish.

Lawl

 

[-Mars-]

Alright. I predicted that (Roy, Pichu, Doctor Mario, Falco, ICs, GandW, Sheik, Jiggs and Luigi will be taken out). That brings the roster from 26 to 17. I then guess that there would be 15 new characters which would bring Brawl's roster up to 32.

But I remember reading on a translation that Sakurai may reveal every character before the game comes out because people will find out anyways.

So let us say that he stays with his word and does this. We have 13 revealed characters on the website. We have about 4 months exactly left until the release. (4 weeks in 4 months so 16 weeks).

Each week a character is revealed. Let us say he sticks with that pattern.

16 plus 13 is 29.

But I used many assumptions to get to that number, but it is not to far off from my predicted number of 32.

falco, jiggs, and luigi are defanitely not leaving the game, especially luigi who along with mario has been around for nearly 20 years. if your going to put stupid characters like snake in the game, then their is no way that luigi will be out. so with those three characters still in that leaves the roster at 20 so with your prediction there would be around 32-35

 

[super.smash.camel]

just look at how much better samus looks in brawl compared to melee. quality over quantity

i think the game wood be fine with only 30 chars... no clones of course

 

[freeman123]

I don't think that there should be any less than 40 characters.

 

[AAbatterie]

I don't think that there should be any less than 40 characters.

I agree. About 20 characters are returning from Melee (just a guess), so doubling it would be awesome. There were 12 in Smash 64, and Melee there was 25 (Zelda/Sheik is one character), which is pretty much doubled.

But if we subtract the clones and sucky characters (excluding Luigi), that makes 20. That's 4 less than the doubled number. So in Brawl, there could be 40 characters, but only about 35 would be sufficient characters, if we conclude that the other characters are clones or sucky.

This is all just an assumption though.

 

[SuperAce]

Gentlemen, please! Sakurai-sensei already clearly stated that he would like to have at least 40 characters total. He also said that third party characters would amount to no more than one or two (NOT including Solid Snake). So even if included the full Melee roster of 25 (26 if you include Shiek as a seperate character), then you still have room for 15 more. We've seen four N00Bs alreadys (Five if you include Zero Samus). Zero Suit Samus is considered to be more like a transformation like Shiek and Giga Bowser, so there's at least 11 more slots to be filled. And the Original Eight are already confirmed anyway.
Odds are Sakurai WON'T reveal the entire roster online. After all, shouldn't secret characters be a secret? And I most definetely know he wouldn't straight up say wether Sonic or any other third party characters are in the game or not. And if you look at the list of composers for the game based songs, then ya know there could be characters from all the games on the list and some that aren't.
Besides. With the assist trophies pratcially every little fanboy or fangirl can have their character wish come true. Check on the rep, Knuckle Joe's an assist trophy.

... or I could be wrong and they'll cut all the old secret charas off. Never know!

Point of Rant: Don't count anyone out yet, because december is still a few months away and ANYTHING can happen in Smash Bros.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Alright. I predicted that (Roy, Pichu, Doctor Mario, Falco, ICs, GandW, Sheik, Jiggs and Luigi will be taken out). That brings the roster from 26 to 17. I then guess that there would be 15 new characters which would bring Brawl's roster up to 32.

But I remember reading on a translation that Sakurai may reveal every character before the game comes out because people will find out anyways.

So let us say that he stays with his word and does this. We have 13 revealed characters on the website. We have about 4 months exactly left until the release. (4 weeks in 4 months so 16 weeks).

Each week a character is revealed. Let us say he sticks with that pattern.

16 plus 13 is 29.

But I used many assumptions to get to that number, but it is not to far off from my predicted number of 32.

Firstly, I didn't realize about the one character a week deal. I knew it was pretty much once a week, but it didn't dawn on me how many weeks left. And seriously, Luigi? C'mon man, that's a stretch. And people don't understand that Jigglypuff was put in the game after she'd already been cut, just to add a number to the roster, showing Sakurai really doesn't care much for her.

Now, about the "16 plus 13 is 29" business. Of the Melee roster, 9 movesets(characters) are left to be confirmed, without clones:
-Luigi, C Falcon, Jiggs, Ness, IC, Sheik, Mewtwo, Peach, G&W.
*Remember that C Falcon, Luigi, and Ness count as one of the weekly character updates, as they haven't been shown yet.*

If all of the above characters return, that only leaves 7 slots for "Newcomers" such as Pit and Wario. Cut G&W, Mewtwo, and Sheik. Now you've got 10 slots for Newcomers. Sounds great if you add them to the 5 Newcomers from the trailers, however we have yet to get a Dojo update for Meta-Knight, and Snake if Sakurai is updating hidden characters. Cut your Newcomer list now to 8-9. From this point on, we are only getting 8-9 Newcomers we don't know yet as of the week of July 22-28, 2007.

Cut 1-2 more off for the Third Party characters, leaving us with 6-8 Nintendo Newcomers.

This is seeming more and more similar to Melee, instead the excuse is that he's going for "quality over quantity" instead of the "running out of time" used for Melee.

Again, this is on conservative scale based on popular belief. I find it rather realistic to be honest. It doesn't sound like too little that it won't be interesting and not too much that at that point the characters might seem to just be being thrown together.

 

[freeman123]

Bowserlick
Alright. I predicted that (Roy, Pichu, Doctor Mario, Falco, ICs, GandW, Sheik, Jiggs and Luigi will be taken out). That brings the roster from 26 to 17. I then guess that there would be 15 new characters which would bring Brawl's roster up to 32.

But I remember reading on a translation that Sakurai may reveal every character before the game comes out because people will find out anyways.

So let us say that he stays with his word and does this. We have 13 revealed characters on the website. We have about 4 months exactly left until the release. (4 weeks in 4 months so 16 weeks).

Each week a character is revealed. Let us say he sticks with that pattern.

16 plus 13 is 29.

But I used many assumptions to get to that number, but it is not to far off from my predicted number of 32.

You don't think Luigi is returning?

Anyway, nobody ever said that one character will be revealed a week. That's already been proven to be wrong because some weeks 2 characters have been revealed and some weeks no characters have been revealed.

Your entire theory is wrong because the logic you based it on is false.

 

[the grim lizard]

Honestly, as long as the original 12 are in and Dedede, Ridley, and Olimar are in Brawl, I'm happy.

 

[Bassoonist]

They might return, but maybe not as playable characters.

Although I admit, I am streching logic a little my predicting Luigi will not be playable.

But honestly I don't think he adds all that much.

That's your opinion, and in no way justifies your prediction that he'll be cut.