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Is For Glory considered good practice for tournaments?
- Thread starter Octagon
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short answer;
no.
majority of for glory players aren't even that good, you get paired up with random players who use random characters all the time so you never get any time whatsoever to get a feel for a certain matchup, and even if you did run into enough of the same character to get an idea of how to play the matchup of them, its likely that its a character that won't really matter much in tournaments and it'll be one you're unlikely to see in an offline tournament.
Then you have the issue of for glory using only final destination. Tournament rules NEVER have run final destination only in smash's history, so you get no experience on any of the other stages. So even if you have mastered playing on final destination, all your opponent in a tournament could do is strike that stage off the list each time and take you to a stage you have absolutely no experience on while they have plenty.
For glory is pretty much good just for lolz and those of us who wanted a 1v1 option for random online which we never got with brawl.
But by no means at all is it good practice for tournaments. At most it can help you get the absolute basics down like spacing and some true followups with your own character. But other than that it'd be awful for tournament practice.
If you want practice for preparing for a tournament, your best bet if you're going online is to go face some players from around here, or at something like allisbrawl's ladder.
With all that said I'm pretty guilty of playing practically exclusively on for glory online. But the thing is I don't plan on going to tournaments much anymore, and if i did, I damn sure would not be using for glory as a practice mode before the tournament.
no.
majority of for glory players aren't even that good, you get paired up with random players who use random characters all the time so you never get any time whatsoever to get a feel for a certain matchup, and even if you did run into enough of the same character to get an idea of how to play the matchup of them, its likely that its a character that won't really matter much in tournaments and it'll be one you're unlikely to see in an offline tournament.
Then you have the issue of for glory using only final destination. Tournament rules NEVER have run final destination only in smash's history, so you get no experience on any of the other stages. So even if you have mastered playing on final destination, all your opponent in a tournament could do is strike that stage off the list each time and take you to a stage you have absolutely no experience on while they have plenty.
For glory is pretty much good just for lolz and those of us who wanted a 1v1 option for random online which we never got with brawl.
But by no means at all is it good practice for tournaments. At most it can help you get the absolute basics down like spacing and some true followups with your own character. But other than that it'd be awful for tournament practice.
If you want practice for preparing for a tournament, your best bet if you're going online is to go face some players from around here, or at something like allisbrawl's ladder.
With all that said I'm pretty guilty of playing practically exclusively on for glory online. But the thing is I don't plan on going to tournaments much anymore, and if i did, I damn sure would not be using for glory as a practice mode before the tournament.
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Terios the Hedgehog
Smash Hero
It does have an advantage that may slip your mind. The level of player you play can fluctuate wildly like in a tournament. You need to get a feel for how they play REAL fast and that's actually pretty useful.
that one single small positive about it doesn't at all make up for the amount of issues trying to use it for training brings. Besides the level of players you face in something like allisibrawl's ladder also can fluctuate just as wildly, with the key difference being that they still use a more traditional tournament ruleset.
digiholic
Smash Ace
The way I see it is, it's another layer of training. Before Sm4sh, your usual process of taking a technique from "the lab" to a game with real-life players was
training mode > CPUs > Head to head
and with the addition of For Glory, you get the new progression of
training mode > CPUs > For Glory > Head to head
It's good for practicing for tournaments because it lets you try new techs against real players that aren't as predictable as CPUs, although you still need to get to that head-to-head level for real practice. It's mainly for practicing mechanical techniques like combos and mixups rather than actual strategy. For example, going in to For Glory I might say "I'm going to go into this game trying to rain Metal Blades from repeated Rush Coils so I can practice my angled blades against a moving opponent"
training mode > CPUs > Head to head
and with the addition of For Glory, you get the new progression of
training mode > CPUs > For Glory > Head to head
It's good for practicing for tournaments because it lets you try new techs against real players that aren't as predictable as CPUs, although you still need to get to that head-to-head level for real practice. It's mainly for practicing mechanical techniques like combos and mixups rather than actual strategy. For example, going in to For Glory I might say "I'm going to go into this game trying to rain Metal Blades from repeated Rush Coils so I can practice my angled blades against a moving opponent"
Octagon
Smash Journeyman
I think the only drawback is the stage selection only being omega stages. Otherwise, it seems like great practice, but of course not at all like face to face battles.
ATH_
Smash Ace
I support For Glory and its usefulness, so here goes.
For Glory will help you with matchups and learning what characters play best on Final Destination.
If you don't have any good battle partners then this may be good if you have good internet. As a tip though, disregard any match that lags to where you say to yourself "Ugh". If you are losing a lot on FG, that's fine, it's not meant to show your skill, just to help you understand matchups better.
If you have the option to just go straight to a tourney, do it. Try to be friendly and ask for advice after each game. Ask people about where they normally go and such and see if you can obtain a few friends to train with. Sooner or later you won't even have to worry about it.
Just always keep in mind that your records do not matter in For Glory. Your losses and wins are meaningless when it comes to tournaments. Someone who plays Link or Sheik will have a much better ratio than someone who plays Marth/Lucina or Falcon because it is just easier to win with those characters.
For Glory will help you with matchups and learning what characters play best on Final Destination.
If you don't have any good battle partners then this may be good if you have good internet. As a tip though, disregard any match that lags to where you say to yourself "Ugh". If you are losing a lot on FG, that's fine, it's not meant to show your skill, just to help you understand matchups better.
If you have the option to just go straight to a tourney, do it. Try to be friendly and ask for advice after each game. Ask people about where they normally go and such and see if you can obtain a few friends to train with. Sooner or later you won't even have to worry about it.
Just always keep in mind that your records do not matter in For Glory. Your losses and wins are meaningless when it comes to tournaments. Someone who plays Link or Sheik will have a much better ratio than someone who plays Marth/Lucina or Falcon because it is just easier to win with those characters.