Is Falco unable to Gatling Combo in 3.5?

[Broasty]

Is it just me, or did the global change to DACUS cause Falco to lose Gatling Combo?

 

[Sorry:(]

I too am curious. I just came across gatling combos while digging through PM tech guides and I haven't been able to pull it off with falco. I need to know if it is possible.

 

[Kazuyahimegami]

Bump. I'd also like to know if he still has the gatling combo. I could have sworn I did it once in 3.5 but I may be mistaken lol

 

[Magellan]

Falco can no longer Gatling Combo in 3.5.

(I had placed the link for Falco in the SmashWiki here; but I cannot post links until I have posted ten times. Google search "Falco Project M" and go to the SmashWiki. My apologies for the lack of a link.)

Scroll down to Revisions for 3.5. The frame window for his DACUS has been shortened to 2 frames.

 

[ProdigyX5]

I'm a newb

I've probably done the Combo before but I don't know what you guys are actually referencing

Dthrow > Shine > Nair/Uair still works though

 

[Chesstiger2612]

@ ProdigyX5
The Gatling Combo means you cancel the hit of your dash attack into an up-smash.

@ Broasty
Only Mr. Game&Watch and Sonic can gatling combo in 3.5. In 3.0 Falco, Jigglypuff, Ivysaur, Mr. Game&Watch and Wario could do it.
Read this post for more detail and explanation:

Rectification: It looks like DACUS-window is now frames 2&3 of DA instead of frames 3&4 like it was before (for 5-frame jumpers.) That explains pretty much everything.
(It also looks like you can't do the UpSmash on frame 2 with the C-Stick and like debug-mode doesn't recognize different attack inputs on consecutive frames as different, so you can't really test it without other means of frame advance.)

 

[Zigludo]

@ Chesstiger2612 So, does that mean that DACUS is now a frame perfect input if you use the cstick for the second hit?

What if you use the cstick and then a button bound to grab (Z) or attack (A)?

 

[Chesstiger2612]

No, DACUS has a 2-frame input afaik

 

[Zigludo]

I meant that, if you can't use the cstick on frame 2, that means you can only use it frame 3. Which would be a 1 frame window

 

[Chesstiger2612]

Ah ok, I thought you meant using the c-stick for the cancelled dash attack and not the up-smash

 

[Zigludo]

Yeah, I think we understand each other now.

Well, from now on, I'll make sure to practice DACUS by hitting the cstick first. Thanks!