Ikes up B FTW... and normal b

[Kentalish]

<Up Special Move: Aether>

First he throws the sword!

Then he leaps after it and catches it in midair!

Then he swiftly plunges, slicing the air!

Of special importance is the fact that he is resistant to attacks for a moment right after throwing his sword.

He’s not flinching?!

He’s not really invincible—he still takes damage. But he won’t flinch in the slightest.

This time, there are several moves like this among the heavy characters, so watch out!

Oh, he also has this special move...

<Standard Special Move: Eruption>

His standard special move is called Eruption!
You can even charge this one up.

 

[Dynamism]

I totally thought they'd give a kirby-like upB to Meta Knight that was just like this. What ev..lol

 

[Shuma]

Key word, heavy.

 

[Destruction_King]

Eruption looks a helluva lot like Roy's normal B.

I think Roy is officially out. But the difference between Marth and Ike's up B, and the fact that Ike is a heavy character, means Marth has a chance in my opinion.

 

[Bloshi]

His Up-b gets a lot of distance, but doesn't look so great as an attack, seeing as it looks a lot like Kirby's final cutter. His normal b, while amazingly cool, looks useless, unless its **** fast, or hits thorugh shields or something.

On a side note: Ike is a heavyweight? Hmmmm, a heavy sword character with fire...sounds familiar.

 

[Circus]

Yup. UpB seems a lot like Kirby's (but ridiculously high) and the neutral B looks pretty similar to Marth's/Roy's. Only, if anything, more destructive.

Heavy characters not flinching as easily definitely makes them better contenders. They've needed something to make up for their lack of speed (and power alone doesn't really cut it). But we've known about this ever since Bowser's profile.

I like what I see.

 

[Dizzynecro]

Yes super armor. Poor bowser can rise from the depths of low teir.

 

[Ess oh Aytch]

What the **** not a good attack? What are you on? He. Can't. Flinch. This means no edge-guarding, or VERY limited edge-guarding.

 

[Kentalish]

Yes super armor. Poor bowser can rise from the depths of low teir.

how do u tell tier?

 

[Circus]

What the **** not a good attack? What are you on? He. Can't. Flinch. This means no edge-guarding, or VERY limited edge-guarding.

"Of special importance is the fact that he is resistant to attacks for a moment right after throwing his sword."

It's not going to be THAT amazing. The flinch-proofness doesn't sound as though it will last too long.

 

[Destruction_King]

"Of special importance is the fact that he is resistant to attacks for a moment right after throwing his sword."

It's not going to be THAT amazing. The flinch-proofness doesn't sound as though it will last too long.

That time that he's flinch proof...

Sounds like a perfect time to charge up a FALCON PUNCH!!!!!

 

[Dizzynecro]

how do u tell tier?

Common knowledge.
Basically how good a charecter is.
high teir charecters are easier to win with while low teir charecters are an uphill fight to win with. teir lists are made by top players or from matchup charts.

 

[Dizzynecro]

That time that he's flinch proof...

Sounds like a perfect time to charge up a FALCON PUNCH!!!!!

so that it will come out when hes in the air?

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

Bowser isn't low tier.... -_- but the super armor for Huge and Heavy characters is a great substitute for fast speed!!!

 

[SniperRy]

how do u tell tier?

http://www.smashwiki.com/wiki/Tiers


and i love what i see and it looks like i'll love playing my favorite heavy weights with a whole new flavor

 

[Diddy Kong]

Aether already sounds as one of my favorite moves. =) I dunno where Eruption comes from though... Ike never used any sort of fire attack in FEoR. =/ But what's even better is that Sakurai said that other heavy characters also will have Aether like moves, will the heavy characters finally be able to stand up against the fast combo masters? Probarly still not, but this is a good way to balance them out.

 

[clentes]

This is pretty dumb, but my friend thinks the sword spins when ikey throws it.

Can anyone explain why this would or wouldn't be true?

(yes it's stupid, but whatever XD)

 

[Dynamism]

I think it'd be cool if it span...multiple shots on the way up catch people on the way...why not?
I'm just glad he wacks people straight down like Kirby's UpB in 64...Not comparing, they just need that back!

 

[Noypi_GjD]

Well it looks like Marth isn't totally discardd beucase of these two new moves.

 

[Hong]

I'll quote myself to answer some questions in this topic.

The real reason why he's immune to flinching at the start is because it'd be too complicated if Ike was hit and didn't catch his sword. Then they'd then have to program Ike without his sword. Just to clarify with people early on this thread, the immunity frames are only until he's holding the sword again. Since they did this with Ike, they'll have to do this with other powerhouses even though they won't run into such complications for the sake of balance.

I wouldn't safely assume Ike will be a god mode top tier yet. Sounds like a character you can pick on until you finally regret it.

Edit - I agree with the above. Aether is Aether. Final Cutter is Final Cutter. No need to demolish a character for similarities, especially when you have to make up the majority of the moves for Fire Emblem representitives.

It's close to the original, but will the landing blow still steal life? Who knows.

So yes, the sword spins.
Yes, the immunity only last until he can grab his sword.
No, it's not like Final Cutter just because it's a vertical repetition which carries the foe with the user.

This is indeed good news for power houses. They also may create a smaller speed gap, since it seems Link hasn't slown down at all while nearly everyone else has. Maybe, just maybe, it'll be just as well balanced as the N64 title? <3

 

[THEmSHAKE]

hopefully, the amout of time that a character wont flinch will vary among the heavy characters. Since bowser is the heaviest, his should probably be the longest. Also, someone needs to come up with a name for this new concept.

 

[Dizzynecro]

Bowser isn't low tier....

umm yea he is...

http://www.smashwiki.com/wiki/Tiers

hopefully, the amout of time that a character wont flinch will vary among the heavy characters. Since bowser is the heaviest, his should probably be the longest. Also, someone needs to come up with a name for this new concept.

lol its not a newconcept its been in fighting games for quite a while... its called super armor. Its in marvel versus capcom and guilty gear for two good examples.