If there was one thing you could change about Melee's meta, it would be...

[xD4nish]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, etc. Be selfish, tell me what you want!

 

[20YY SS | Saiblade]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, etc. Be selfish, tell me what you want!

This has been asked countless times, but I'd probably buff the low tiers. Except for Luigi, of course.

 

[meebius]

make giga bowser tournament legal lmaoooooo

 

[EddyBearr]

I'd make the reflector move (so both Fox and Falco) do no damage.

If you don't mean actually changing the game, then I'd either ban wobbling universally, or I'd make Great Bay a legal stage.

 

[Comet7]

remove fox's jab to up smash combo and buff low and mid tier characters.

 

[BirdmanJR]

id probably just ban fox players from being allowed to pick stadium

 

[pershona]

I'd make Pal the version used for all regions.

 

[Heavy Gomez]

reduce/remove the effects of crouch cancelling

 

[MEnKIRBZ]

Make kirbz viable aka top tier

 

[Clint Jaguar]

I'd make Pal the version used for all regions.

But what about the Ken combo?

 

[meebius]

But what about the Ken combo?

There's always the european kenneth combo

 

[Clint Jaguar]

There's always the european kenneth combo

Yeah but it's nowhere near as cool.

 

[EddyBearr]

Make kirbz viable aka top tier

Move to MN. Kirby is high tier here.

 

[CptJPuff]

Slightly increase the knockback of Puff's moves.

 

[Massive]

Remove Fox. Ruins the balance of the game completely.

 

[FROST :)]

Remove Sheik so all the Low tiers dont have an Auto-loss

 

[krazyzyko]

Phantom hits need to GTFO.

 

[Baby_Sneak]

Buff zelda to high-top tier and have her play as a keep away- zoning character that restricts space through projectiles. Then, I'll finally be able to fully enjoy melee.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Phantom hits need to GTFO.

That is the last thing you want to happen. At least with how Brawl fixed it. In Brawl, when you barely scrap another person with the hitbox all you get are yellow sparks. No damage at all. Phantom hits in Melee at the very least give you damage for missing. I say its missing due to how melee/brawl both treat the edge of a hitbox as missing and giving no knockback.

Brawl did do one change right that I wish was in Melee. In Brawl, when you hit someone with a hitbox at the same frame you get grabbed the grabber takes the damage of the move. In melee, the grab takes precedence over the hitbox and the grabber takes no damage at all.

These are not going to change the meta drastically, but it makes grabbing less powerful by a bit.

 

[spy_]

1. Buff Falcon's recovery
2. Buff G&W's defense
3. Give Doc regular Mario's horizontal recovery for cape
4. Nerf Peach's dsmash

Most importantly, take away stage transformations on pokemon

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

I'd have to say Peach's downsmash drives me insane... but even so I wouldn't want it nerfed.

 

[Mastodon]

Don't think I would change anything in the game, I just want more people to play more characters on the A tier list (doc down through young link).

 

[Kurri ★]

Replace Melee Roy with PM or even Smash 4 Roy. Either of those are better than having a wet noodle.

 

[RedRengadeYo]

Keep the year 20XX from ever happening. The multishines, we won't be ready for any of it.

 

[The Young Izzy Iz]

Take away stage hazards from a lot of stages, might free up more for tournament viability. This actually has a chance to happen though with 20xx tournament edition coming out, we'll have to wait and see.

;o

 

[Charple]

No more CC and more legal stages (Rainbow Cruise pls)

 

[pagedMov]

Phantom hits need to GTFO.

The only sane post in this thread.

 

[Quillion]

Oh man, there are a LOT of things that I think that were different about Melee that it would be so much better. A lot of them aren't exclusive to Melee and occur across all Smash games, but...

• Make the Fragile Speedsters not have overly good finishers to compensate for their damage racking ability (seriously, of all the dumb balancing decisions, this makes no sense to me).
• More legal stages.
• No helplessness on the air dodge (more viable movement options FTW).
• Make the wavedash into a basic mechanic the way I thought of: press L or R to do a dash [not run] with its length controlled by pressing the stick anywhere from forward to down.
• No L-canceling (which I don't mind but a lot of people are starting to resent due to now being seen as a pointless middleman to just having little landing lag).
• Don't have such a wide gap between the fastest characters and the slowest characters so that Melee isn't all defined by its Fragile Speedsters.
• Have some buffering so that Melee isn't made of one-frame links.
• Maybe make shielding and rolling a bit more viable. Maybe even combine crouch canceling into shielding (shieldstun increases with damage).
• Make hitstun not completely dependent on knockback so that even Mighty Glaciers can get in on the combo business.
• Make Ganondorf's moveset use his sword and magic projectiles and not just punching. ^_^

Yep, I spent a lot of time thinking about this. Even though Melee is pretty deep, it's far from perfect.

 

[Y-L]

Oh man, there are a LOT of things that I think that were different about Melee that it would be so much better. A lot of them aren't exclusive to Melee and occur across all Smash games, but...

• Make the Fragile Speedsters not have overly good finishers to compensate for their damage racking ability (seriously, of all the dumb balancing decisions, this makes no sense to me).
• More legal stages.
• No helplessness on the air dodge (more viable movement options FTW).
• Make the wavedash into a basic mechanic the way I thought of: press L or R to do a dash [not run] with its length controlled by pressing the stick anywhere from forward to down.
• No L-canceling (which I don't mind but a lot of people are starting to resent due to now being seen as a pointless middleman to just having little landing lag).
• Don't have such a wide gap between the fastest characters and the slowest characters so that Melee isn't all defined by its Fragile Speedsters.
• Have some buffering so that Melee isn't made of one-frame links.
• Maybe make shielding and rolling a bit more viable. Maybe even combine crouch canceling into shielding (shieldstun increases with damage).
• Make hitstun not completely dependent on knockback so that even Mighty Glaciers can get in on the combo business.
• Make Ganondorf's moveset use his sword and magic projectiles and not just punching. ^_^

Yep, I spent a lot of time thinking about this. Even though Melee is pretty deep, it's far from perfect.

Lol sounds like you want to play smash 4.

 

[Quillion]

Lol sounds like you want to play smash 4.

FYI, I don't want either Smash U or Melee. Or Brawl or 64 or PM or even SD Remix.

The Fragile Speedsters having OP finishers is a problem across all Smash games.

But with no L-cancelling, maybe it would be best replaced with little landing lag instead of not compensating at all.