If SSB4 Was Owned By SEGA

[Sharkarat]

Don't think this roster is entirely realistic (it's closer to a wishlist roster), and I'm not Really that knowledgable on Sega.

It's mostly All star racing + some Personal Choices.

All these Icons can be found in roster maker or in the link in my signature.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Don't think this roster is entirely realistic (it's closer to a wishlist roster), and I'm not Really that knowledgable on Sega.

It's mostly All star racing + some Personal Choices.

All these Icons can be found in roster maker or in the link in my signature.

It's a good roster, shows important characters like Sonic, Alex Kidd, etc.

And I barely know that much about SEGA.

 

[SmashShadow]

Lol, Bigcat? Really?

 

[Sharkarat]

Lol, Bigcat? Really?

Mostly because he's in all-stars racing, but also because i felt the roster needed more heavy characters.

 

[Hippopotasauce]

Needs Hornet.
He's been in fighting games before, he's a perfect fit

 

[8-peacock-8]

I knew something was missing. Hornet for god tier.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Decided to take a whack at it. It's basically what I feel would be the best possible representation of Sega's notable history while being somewhat realistic in size.

 

[SchAlternate]

There's a disturbing lack of Bayonetta there.

 

[3Bismyname]

Sonic Franchise
1.Sonic
2.Tails
3.Eggman
4.Knuckles

Nights
5.Nights

Virtua Fighter
6.Akira Yuki
7.Pai Chan

Monkey Ball
8.Aiai

Jet Set Radio
9.Beat

Sakura Wars
10.Sakura Shinguji
11.Ichiro Ogami

Space Channel Five
12.Ulala

Alex Kidd
13.Alex Kidd

Golden Axe
14.Gilius Thunderhead
15.Tyris Flare
16.Death Adder

Phantasy Star
17.Alis Landale
18.Ethan Webber
19.probably another character but I cant think of one

Shenmue
20.Ryo Hazuki

Shinobi
21.Joe Musashi

Hatsune Miku: Diva
22.Hatsune Mika

Billy Hatcher
23.Billy Hatcher

Shining
24.Toma

Third Party options
Megaman
Mario


im most likely gonna add more later but as of now this is what I got cause I gotta sleep. im trying to add characters in series still relevant and popular today as well as ones with big impacts.

 

[jaytalks]

The question is who are Sega's big 3: My guess would be Virtua Fighter, Phantasy Star, and Sonic.
Sonic is Mario
Phantasy Star is Zelda
Virtua Fighter is Pokemon

What does everybody else think?

 

[Shorts]

It would not be good.

 

[volbound1700]

I present Sega Smash All-Stars 4! For the Sega Zii 2!

Sonic Series
Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy Rose
Metal Sonic
Dr. Eggman
Shadow
Alexx Kidd (Alex Kidd)
Billy Hatcher (Billy Hatcher)
Vectorman(Vectorman)
Mega Man (Mega Man)
Shenmue Series
Ryo Hazuki
Lan Di
NiGHTS Series
Nights
Reala
Ulala (Space Channel 5)
Isaac Washington (House of Dead)
Aiai (Super Monkeyball)
Streets of Rage Series
Axel Stone
Blaze Fielding
Amigo (Samba De Amigo)
Panzer Dragoon Series
Edge
Orta
Kasuma Kiryu (Yakuzi)
Valkyria Chronicles
Alicia Melchiott
Welkin Gunther
Selvaria Bles
Joe Musashi (Shinobi)
Sakura Taisen Series
Sakura Shinguji
Ichiro Ogami
Phantasy Star Series
Alis Landale
Chaz Ashley
Hunter (Phantasy Star Online)
Skies of Arcadia Series
Vyse
Aika
Virtua Fighter Series
Akira Yuki
Sarah Bryant
Dural
Golden Axe Series
Gilius Thunderhead
Death Adder
Mario (Super Mario)
Bayonetta (Bayonetta)
Jack Cayman (Madworld)
Gunstar Red (Gunstar Heroes)
Jet Set Radio Series
Beat
Gum

You are missing Rister, Paperboy, and Toe Jam and Earl. Also although he is third party, you cannot have a SEGA all-star without Earthworm Jim.

 

[jaytalks]

You are missing Rister, Paperboy, and Toe Jam and Earl. Also although he is third party, you cannot have a SEGA all-star without Earthworm Jim.

I have a second roster poster with Ristar and Toe Jam and Earl. Just scroll down. Paperboy is technically third party I remember playing him on the NES.

Earthworm Jim I remember primarily as a multi-platform character. But I can see why you want him. I apply the same rules as balance as if Sakurai was making the game. And he might have been, in my alternate timeline, Nintendo went third party and Sakurai still quit his position at Hal. He may have developed Sega Smash Bros Melee.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I'm almost finished with mine.

It's HUGE, for Lulz. Will post it here when I can

 

[Lotusclaw8]

IDK what there is as long as Billy FRIKIN Hatcher is in!

 

[TORNADO BUS DRIVER]

Will post mine soon , just waiting on some icons for it.

 

[waichingliu81]

Sonic, Tails, Amy, Shadow - Sonic The Hedgehog
Bayonetta
Akira Yuki, Jacky Bryant, Pai Chan - Virtua Fighter
Beat - Jet Set Radio
Amigo - Samba Di Amigo
Ulala - Space Channel 5
Ryo - Shenmue
Aiai - Super Monkey Ball
Gilius - Golden Axe
Vyse - Skies of Arcadia
NiGHTS - Nights into Dreams
Alex Kidd
Billy Hatcher
Joe Musashi - Shinobi
Jack Cayman - Anarchy Reigns
Sam Gideon - Vanquish
Ristar
Pulseman
Axel Stone - Streets of Rage
Shou - Blazing Rangers
Toe Jam
Earl
Hatsune Miku
Sakura, Ichiro- Sakura Wars
Ethan Weber - Phantasy Star
Toma - Shining Force
Kurt, Alicia - Valkyria Chronicles
Kaito - Hero Bank
Raphael - Rhythm Thief
Grace - Fighting Vipers
Yusaku - Last Bronx
Dan, Roy - Binary Domain
Janet - Virtua Cop
Zephr - Resonance of Fate

Samus, Link, Mario - Nintendo

 

[SuperBrawler]

Didn't even notice that we already hit the second page.

 

[Arcadenik]

What? No Shion and Asha from Monster World series? No Streets of Rage characters? I am disappoint.

 

[3Bismyname]

I honestly just don't think Sega has enough strong franchises to really make this work. Namco could maybe do it, Konami and Capcom has already done it in their own ways. But Sega isn't nearly as strong imo

 

[waichingliu81]

What? No Shion and Asha from Monster World series? No Streets of Rage characters? I am disappoint.

i forgot about monster world, but Axel Stone is in mines

 

[HugoBoss]

This thread was calling me. I have the perfect list.

I honestly just don't think Sega has enough strong franchises to really make this work. Namco could maybe do it, Konami and Capcom has already done it in their own ways. But Sega isn't nearly as strong imo

Says the fan of Capcom and Konami and Namco, who definitely DID not have strong franchises before crossovers. Or maybe you just don't know that much about Sega

 

[3Bismyname]

Says the fan of Capcom and Konami and Namco, who definitely DID not have strong franchises before crossovers. Or maybe you just don't know that much about Sega

ok.

 

[StupendousMike]

I honestly just don't think Sega has enough strong franchises to really make this work. Namco could maybe do it, Konami and Capcom has already done it in their own ways. But Sega isn't nearly as strong imo

Sega hasn't done a whole lot with a ton of their franchises lately, but back in the day they easily rivaled Nintendo for sheer number of strong IPs. Sonic, Shinobi, Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, ToeJam & Earl, Phantasy Star, Alex Kidd, After Burner, Jet Grind Radio, Panzer Dragoon, NiGHTS, Space Channel 5, Virtua Fighter, Shenmue, Super Monkey Ball, Fantasy Zone, Space Harrier, ChuChu Rocket, Vectorman... those are just off the top of my head. When it comes to making a "Smash"-type roster, Sega could fill up 40-50 character slots just as easily as Nintendo, Capcom, Namco, Konami or Square-Enix.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

I present Sega Smash All-Stars 4! For the Sega Zii 2!

Sonic Series
Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy Rose
Metal Sonic
Dr. Eggman
Shadow
Alexx Kidd (Alex Kidd)
Billy Hatcher (Billy Hatcher)
Vectorman(Vectorman)
Mega Man (Mega Man)
Shenmue Series
Ryo Hazuki
Lan Di
NiGHTS Series
Nights
Reala
Ulala (Space Channel 5)
Isaac Washington (House of Dead)
Aiai (Super Monkeyball)
Streets of Rage Series
Axel Stone
Blaze Fielding
Amigo (Samba De Amigo)
Panzer Dragoon Series
Edge
Orta
Kasuma Kiryu (Yakuzi)
Valkyria Chronicles
Alicia Melchiott
Welkin Gunther
Selvaria Bles
Joe Musashi (Shinobi)
Sakura Taisen Series
Sakura Shinguji
Ichiro Ogami
Phantasy Star Series
Alis Landale
Chaz Ashley
Hunter (Phantasy Star Online)
Skies of Arcadia Series
Vyse
Aika
Virtua Fighter Series
Akira Yuki
Sarah Bryant
Dural
Golden Axe Series
Gilius Thunderhead
Death Adder
Mario (Super Mario)
Bayonetta (Bayonetta)
Jack Cayman (Madworld)
Gunstar Red (Gunstar Heroes)
Jet Set Radio Series
Beat
Gum

Needs a bit more

POP

 

[3Bismyname]

Sega hasn't done a whole lot with a ton of their franchises lately, but back in the day they easily rivaled Nintendo for sheer number of strong IPs. Sonic, Shinobi, Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, ToeJam & Earl, Phantasy Star, Alex Kidd, After Burner, Jet Grind Radio, Panzer Dragoon, NiGHTS, Space Channel 5, Virtua Fighter, Shenmue, Super Monkey Ball, Fantasy Zone, Space Harrier, ChuChu Rocket, Vectorman... those are just off the top of my head. When it comes to making a "Smash"-type roster, Sega could fill up 40-50 character slots just as easily as Nintendo, Capcom, Namco, Konami or Square-Enix.

a majority those are some pretty weak titles. if Sega actually kept up on their franchises outside of giving them pity cameos in Sonic games, then i could agree that they could pull off a successful Smash type game. however, thats not the case. the roster wouldnt entice modern gamers to buy. at best you can hit people up on nostalgia which can work but i would have zero confidence in that being enough. of course they could fill up a roster. hell companies like Level 5 could potentially fill up a roster that big. that doesnt mean it would be successful or that its really a good idea. but hey, this is an argument i havent cared about in almost a year. thanks for bringing me back here.

 

[StupendousMike]

a majority those are some pretty weak titles. if Sega actually kept up on their franchises outside of giving them pity cameos in Sonic games, then i could agree that they could pull off a successful Smash type game. however, thats not the case. the roster wouldnt entice modern gamers to buy. at best you can hit people up on nostalgia which can work but i would have zero confidence in that being enough. of course they could fill up a roster. hell companies like Level 5 could potentially fill up a roster that big. that doesnt mean it would be successful or that its really a good idea. but hey, this is an argument i havent cared about in almost a year. thanks for bringing me back here.

Sorry to drag you back into it, then, but I'm curious as to which ones you think are weak. I'd say there's at least one excellent title in every single series I listed.

And you're right, most modern gamers probably wouldn't recognize a lot of the older characters, but that's true of plenty of games that actually get released. Super Smash Bros. has plenty of characters like that, as do Marvel vs. Capcom, Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing, etc. And really, as long as they have Sonic, it will sell. Only twelve people on earth would know the full roster of my dream fighting crossover "LucasArts vs. Sierra: Point-and-Click Pummeling," but enough would , and maybe it could introduce those younger gamers to those characters, albeit in a new context.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

Quite honestly I'm not all too familiar with SEGA franchises. Sonic, Ristar, and Super Monkey Ball (on Gamecube at least) are the only ones I care about.
I was a Nintendo kid in the 90's (though it doesn't say much since I was born in '94 and all I had was an NES till 2000). My parents say we apparently had a Genesis but I have no memory of that.
That's not to say they have a terrible character selection since the All Stars racing games have a neat roster. They're just some that I'm not too familiar with.
Danica Patrick for SEGA Smash Bros.
Hatsune Miku for SEGA Smash Bros.
Wreck-it-Ral- Alright I'm done here.

 

[HugoBoss]

Even though many of Sega's franchises are dormant so they can continue to milk Sonic , it should not stop them from making a crossover fighter. They have enough franchises, and many unique characters to choose from despite how unknown they are. I doubt other crossover franchises did not have this problem.

 

[Sagashi]

I think we're assuming that in this alternate universe, Sega DID keep their other franchises up, for the record. That being said, I want a Skies of Arcadia sequel. My big question is Who would be their ROB?

 

[HugoBoss]

I think we're assuming that in this alternate universe, Sega DID keep their other franchises up, for the record. That being said, I want a Skies of Arcadia sequel. My big question is Who would be their ROB?

Opa-Opa, Segata Sanshiro?

 

[8-peacock-8]

Obviously AGES is ROB!

 

[EchoesOfRain]

I would KILL to have Honey from Sonic Fighters make it in!

 

[StupendousMike]

I think we're assuming that in this alternate universe, Sega DID keep their other franchises up, for the record. That being said, I want a Skies of Arcadia sequel. My big question is Who would be their ROB?

I would pay ALL the money for Skies of Arcadia 2. That's one of my favorite games of all time, and easily my favorite RPG. It's nice seeing Vyse, Aika and Fina pop up in Valkyria Chroinicles, and all the Skies content in All-Stars Racing Transformed is encouraging, but a full-fledged sequel would absolutely make my day. As would Jet Set Radio 3, Shenmue 3 and a proper Phantasy Star 5.

 

[Mr. KoopaTurtle]

Aiai.
Amigo.
Ristar.
Jet the Hawk.
B.D. Joe.
Vector the Crocodile.
Mario.

If half of those characters were in the game, it would already have my money.

 

[Leafeon523]

So if this was to happen, How many Sonic reps do you think there would be? my guess would be six or seven reps.

 

[tomvoxx]

Sonic the Hedgehog: Tails, Sonic, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Silver, Rouge, Blaze, Team Chaotix (Espio, Vector, and Charmy; swap out like PKMN Trainer in Brawl), Eggman, and Metal Sonic.
NiGHTS of NiGHTS.
Golden Axe: Ax Battler, Tyris Flare, Gilius Thunderhead, and Death Adder.
Centurion of Altered Beast.
Joe Musashi of Shinobi.
Streets of Rage: Axel Stone, Skate Hunter, and Blaze Fielding.
Harrier of Space Harrier.
Bonanza Bros (team like Ice Climbers).
Alex Kidd of Alex Kidd.
Beat of Jet Set Radio.
Ulala of Space Channel 5.
Burning Rangers: Tillus and Shou.
Sketch Turner of Comix Zone.
Rent-A-Hero of Rent-A-Hero (male or female option).
Vyse of Skies of Arcadia.
Kid Chameleon of Kid Chameleon.
Eternal Champions: Shadow Yamoto and Larcen Tyler.
Virtua Fighter: Akira Yuki and Jacky Bryant.
AiAi of Super Monkey Ball.
Billy Hatcher of Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg.
Samba of Samba de Amigo.
Toejam and Earl of Toejam and Earl (swap like Zelda/Sheik).
Grace of Fighting Vipers.
Ryo Hazuki of Shenmue.
James Taylor of House of the Dead.
BD Joe of Crazy Taxi.
Phantasy Star: Alis Landale and HUmar.
Bayonetta of Bayonetta.
Vectorman of Vectorman.

Made this all in Photoshop a month or so ago, just discovered this post.
But yeah, I used to make these all the time post-Melee release with a roster featuring all Sonic characters, then one with my friends and family, one featuring my favorite characters in general like Mario, Sonic, Batman, Spider-Man, Darth Vader, bionicle, ect, an all home star runner roster, and finally a Sega smash bros, but it wasn't nearly as good as this one lol. But yeah enjoy

 

[Crap-Zapper]

In said universe, there used to be a rumor that Mario and Luigi could be unlocked in the second game by doing an overly hard challenge.

I remember that ~



for refference.

Spoiler

 

[jfed8888]

I made rosters for all four current Super Smash Bros. games. I don't know a lot of these characters so most of it was just complete guessing. I was completely limited to what the Roster Maker had and what I found on the internet. I also did not take into account dates of characters being made so it is completely inacurrate. Without further ado, I present to you: Super Sega Bros.!

Super Sega Bros. 64

Spoiler: Characters

Tails
Sonic
Aiai
Amigo
B.D. Joe
Alex Kidd
Ryo Hazuki
Billy Hatcher
Ristar
ToeJam
Earl
Ulala

Super Sega Bros. Melee

Spoiler: Characters

Metal Sonic
Sonic
Tails
Eggman
Amy Rose
Aiai
Meemee
Toejam
Earl
Gum
Ulala
Alex Kidd
Amigo
Gilius
Ristar
Billy Hatcher
B.D. Joe
Ryo Hazuki
NiGHTS
Reala
Bonanza Bros.
Jack Frost
Vectorman
Vyse
Axel Stone

Super Sega Bros. Brawl

Spoiler: Characters

Sonic
Tails
Eggman
Amy Rose
Aiai
Meemee
Amigo
Amiga
Ulala
Gum
Pudding
Ristar
NiGHTS
Reala
Ryo Hazuki
Akira Yuki
Billy Hatcher
ToeJam
Earl
Vyse
Bayonetta
Gilius
Chuih
Jack Frost
Alex Kidd
Shogun
B.D. Joe
Bonanza Bros.
Opa-Opa
Vectorman
Axel Stone
Red
Joe Musashi
Bomberman
Mario

Super Sega Bros. for 3DS and Wii U

Spoiler: Characters

Sonic
Tails
Amy Rose
Eggman
Blaze
Zavok
Metal Sonic
Akira Yuki
Jacky Bryant
Aiai
Meemee
Baby (Locked #1)
Gongon (Locked #2)
Ulala
Gum
Pudding
ToeJam
Earl
NiGHTS
Reala
Amigo
Amiga
Chuih
Kapu Kapu
Billy Hatcher
Shogun
Joe Musashi
Bonanza Bros.
Ristar
Jack Frost
Vyse
Ryo Hazuki
B.D. Joe
Gilius
Bayonetta
Alex Kidd
Opa-Opa
Vectorman
Red
Beat
Football Manager
Spiral Night
Zobio + Zobiko
Axel Stone
Kid Chameleon
Teddie
Chuck D. Head
Jack Cayman
Ecco
Hornet
Pac-Man
Megaman
Mario

 

[waichingliu81]

Sorry to drag you back into it, then, but I'm curious as to which ones you think are weak. I'd say there's at least one excellent title in every single series I listed.

And you're right, most modern gamers probably wouldn't recognize a lot of the older characters, but that's true of plenty of games that actually get released. Super Smash Bros. has plenty of characters like that, as do Marvel vs. Capcom, Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing, etc. And really, as long as they have Sonic, it will sell. Only twelve people on earth would know the full roster of my dream fighting crossover "LucasArts vs. Sierra: Point-and-Click Pummeling," but enough would , and maybe it could introduce those younger gamers to those characters, albeit in a new context.

but that comment pretty much says a lot as to why nintendo has always been dominant and are still active in the hardware market, whereas sega are not. nintendo fans buy nintendo franchises and support them, whereas many sega fans do not. outside of sonic, and perhaps hatsune miku, sega does not have as many strong and successful franchises and characters compared to nintendo.
at least many nintendo fans put their money where their mouth is when mario, metroid, pokemon, smash and zelda is concerned. when the likes of virtua fighter, valkyrie chronicles and other good games that sega releases, many sega fans do not support these franchises as much as they do with sonic.