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If Smash characters were true to their weight

Crystanium

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Introduction
This time of discussion has been done before regarding characters who were true to their canon, as well as to characters who were bound by reality. I thought I'd make this about characters and who would be the heaviest and who would be the lightest. Before I begin, I will mention that I am going to use something called Hamwi's method. What this does is it takes the height of a character and finds their weight. It's written like this: 106 lb. + 6 lb/in(x in. - 60 in.) For women, it's 100 lb. instead, and for women, instead of 6 lb/in, it's 5 lb/in. Pokémon weight/mass can be found at Bulbapedia. Now let's begin.

:4bowser:: ≈2,000+ lb. (907.03+ kg.)
:4dk:: 800 lb. (362.81 kg.) (Donkey Kong 64)
:4samus:: 343 lb. (155.56 kg.) (If we consider her armor to weigh 198 lb. (90 kg.), including her weight outside the armor.)
:4wario:: 308 lb. (139.68 kg.) (Wario World manual, p. 32; credit goes to MarioManTAW for telling me.)
:4ganondorf:: 286 lb. (129.71 kg.) (Ganondorf is 7.5 ft. (2.3 m.) tall; Hyrule Historia, p. 148)
:4mewtwo:: 269 lb. (122 kg.)
:rosalina:: 250 lb. (113.38 kg.) (Mario height comparison.)
:4megaman:: 231.53 lb. (105 kg.) (Mega Man's weight.)
:4charizard:: 199.5 lb. (90.48 kg.)
:4ryu:: 187 lb. (84.81 kg.) (Street Fighter V Stat Card; credit goes to Arthur97 for telling me.)
:4luigi:: 172 lb. (78 kg.) (See Rosalina.)
:4peach:: 165 lb. (74.83 kg.) (See Rosalina.)
:4link:: 148+ lb. (67.12+ kg.) (Link's height of 5.58 ft. (1.7 m.) is based on the Lakeside Laboratory measurement; Link's sword and shield would add extra weight.)
:4zss:: 145 lb. (65.76 kg.) (Ignoring the heels and if Samus is 5.75 ft. (1.75 m.) tall.)
:4sheik: 135 lb. (61.22 kg.) (If Zelda is also 5.58 ft. (1.7 m.) tall, which she seems to be as tall as Link.)
:4zelda:: 135 lb. (61.22 kg.) (See Sheik.)
:4mario:: 123 lb. (I took Mario's height of 5.08 ft. (1.55 m.) and increased his weight by 10%, which gave me that result. See Rosalina.)
:4lucario:: 119 lb. (53.97 kg.)
:4ness:: 100 lb. (This is the average weight of a 13 year old.)
:4greninja:: 88.2 lb. (40 kg.)
:4lucas:: 88 lb. (39.91 kg.) (This is the average weight of a 12 year old.)
:4sonic:: 77.18 lb. (35 kg.) (Sonic Channel; credit goes to Victory.IsMyDestinySSB4 for telling me.)
:4pikachu:: 13.2 lb. (5.99 kg.)
:4jigglypuff:: 12.1 lb. (5.49 kg.)
:4rob:: 1.46 lb. (0.622 kg.) (Nintendo Robotic Operating Buddy)
:4dedede:: ? (Obviously heavier than Kirby and Meta Knight.)
:4metaknight:: ? (Probably a little heavier than Kirby, due to wearing a mask, holding a sword, and having wings.)
:4kirby:: ? (Kirby is actually smaller than Jigglypuff in height, so he may very well be lighter.)
:4olimar:: Probably a few grams.
:4gaw:: Since the game itself used liquid crystals, Mr. Game & Watch is the lightest.
 
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I'd suggest having metric measurements too, please.
:4bowser:: ?
:4dk:: 362.8KGs. (Donkey Kong 64)
:4samus:: 155.5KGs. (If we consider her armor to weigh 198 lb., including her weight outside the armor.)
:4ganondorf:: 129.7KGs. (Ganondorf is 2.3 m. tall; Hyrule Historia, p. 148)
:4mewtwo:: 122KGs.
:rosalina:: 113.4KGs.
:4megaman:: 105.3KGs. (Mega Man's weight.)
:4charizard:: 90.7KGs.
:4link:: 67.1+KGs. (Link's height of 1.7 m. is based on the Lakeside Laboratory measurement; Link's sword and shield would add extra weight.)
:4zss:: 65.7KGs. (Ignoring the heels and if Samus is 1.75 m.)
:4sheik: 61.2KGs. (If Zelda is also 1.7 tall, which she seems to be as tall as Link.)
:4zelda:: 61.2KGs (See Sheik.)
:4mario:: 55.8 KGs (I took Mario's height of 1.55 m. and increased his weight by 10%, which gave me that result.)
:4lucario:: 54 KGs
:4ness:: 45.3KGs. (This is the average weight of a 13 year old.)
:4greninja:: 39.9KGs
:4lucas:: 39.9KGs(This is the average weight of a 12 year old.)
:4pikachu:: 5.5KGs
:4jigglypuff:: 5.4KGs
:4kirby:: ? (Kirby is actually smaller than Jigglypuff in height, so he may very well be lighter.)
:4gaw:: Since the game itself used liquid crystals, Mr. Game & Watch is the lightest.
If someone can confirm this, I think Bowser is supposed to be 9.7 tons (9700KGs), I read it somwhere it was about that.
It's gonna be hard to even pinpoint any weight ot the FE characters that wear armour (:4corrin::4corrinf::4myfriends::4lucina::4marth::4feroy:) because we don't even know their actual weight, let alone their armour's weight. Just looking at how much damage Lucina takes in the game and how thick her armour is, I'd estimate it'd be strong enough to deflect weaker bullets at close range (probably up to .45ACP range), but for that, her armour would have to be made of steel, and that would add a lot of weight.
If their height is any help: Lucina is supposedly about as tall as Link (so about 172CM for both) and Marth is slightly taller than her (around 176CM)
 
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Wario has a canon weight of 308 lbs/140 kg according to Wario World's instruction manual. Also, I did something similar with heights and it's interesting to see how Smash differs from the canon games.
 

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Are we going by game, or smash canon? Isn't Kirby supposed to be like half a foot tall in his own canon? I'll check this soon.

Edit: Just checked. 8 inches. BAM! Although in Smash Bros he is 3 feet.

Edit 2: I think I saw on How to Play Ness 101 that bowser was 600 lbs.? Again, I'll check.

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Sizes in Smash are extremely inaccurate, so we'd really have to choose, here.
I thought this exact thing.
The only solid reference we have is that Lucina's supposed to be as tall as Link, and that Marth is probably a wee bit taller than him.
Yeah, but isn't Lucina also supposed to be thirteen in her own game? Certainly height doesn't translate. But bust size does. (Insert concerned face for all the adults who favor her as a waifu)
 
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Sizes in Smash are extremely inaccurate, so we'd really have to choose, here.
What I am worried about is the FE characters. The only solid reference we have is that Lucina's supposed to be as tall as Link, and that Marth is probably a wee bit taller than him. However, I really do not know if we can trust the height of the rest of the characters from that series using Smash. In Awakening, you do get to see Lucina, Marth, Roy, Ike and Robin together in the same game, and in Fates, Corrin, Lucina, Marth, Ike and Robin. It's really hard to compare height in those games, but if someone is willing to do it, it could be great.
 
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I will include height in feet and mass as well. I was able to find out that R.O.B. is 1.46 lb. I will update tomorrow when I have more time. I know the sizes in Smash are inaccurate, but I'm focused on actual height and weight. I may disregard rounding because R.O.B. would end up being 1 lb. That's unacceptable in my mind. As for FE characters, I'll think of something. I'd also like to thank those who posted weight for other characters. I will give you credit.
 

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Yeah, but isn't Lucina also supposed to be thirteen in her own game? Certainly height doesn't translate. But bust size does. (Insert concerned face for all the adults who favor her as a waifu)
...Lucina's nowhere near close to being 13. Make it mid to late 20s, more like. 13 years is probably the minimum amount she spent at war before the events of that game.

If you guys want to get all Game Theory like, we could use my own Lucina cosplay to sorta estimate how much her armour would weight if it was actually real.
 

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Awakening makes it so difficult to actually gauge age that I wonder if they made it confusing to guess on purpose. Anyway, age is not the topic at hand, here. If Lucina's height is somehow gonna help us find what could be her weight, we just need to keep in mind she's roughly as tall as Link, and although it's not shown through her body, in Awakening, she is very physically strong (my own Lucina actually ended up having more Strength than Chrom, and he is buff as hell) so for her weight we could sorta estimate it through a 1.72m tall woman with a more buff figure.
 

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I don't care what Pokemon says, Charizard has to weigh more than 200 lbs. How can a beefy dragon only weigh 65 lbs more than a skinny ninja like Sheik? And ~70 lbs less than MewTwo? Come on man.
 

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What I find to be odd about the Pokemon franchise is that the heaviest Pokemon by far are nowhere near as heavy as certain real world animals. And the tallest Pokemon, Wailord, is not even close to being as heavy as the blue whale, and it weighs even less than an adult elephant, which is shorter in height.
 

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Well, it's not like Pokemon follow the rules of the natural world a lot of the times.
 

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Notably in Wailord's case, the Pokémon is meant to be partially like a balloon/buoy so it's extremely light weight for its size is one of its distinctive characteristics. Still doesn't explain why Charizard weighs less than most supermodels.
 

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Using Kirby's height as canon (10 in)
I calculated that the dimensions of his mask, pure steel, is 3 mm by 300 mm by 300 mm. (I'm going to be using a rectangular prism b/c its much easier to calculate)
So the mask weighs about 2kg, (4.4 lbs) because steel has a density of 8,050 kg/m3. Assuming his wings are made of leather, or a leatherlike substance, I would guess that its dimensions are, both 2 included, 4 mm by 2 m by 1 m. After some boring math, this equated to about only 7 mg, because leather is not nearly as dense as steel. (0.8 kg/cm3)

So MK is around Kirby plus around 2.5 kg, if we were to include his steel gloves as well.

If you want to count his sword, 0.3 m by 0.1 m by 0.1 m, made of solid gold, this weighs about 19,300 kg/m3 (again assuming that this is a rectangular prism) this would make the sword a whopping 57.9 kg (128 lbs)!!!
 
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Using Kirby's height as canon (10 in)
I calculated that the dimensions of his mask, pure steel, is 3 mm by 300 mm by 300 mm. (I'm going to be using a rectangular prism b/c its much easier to calculate)
So the mask weighs about 2kg, (4.4 lbs) because steel has a density of 8,050 kg/m3. Assuming his wings are made of leather, or a leatherlike substance, I would guess that its dimensions are, both 2 included, 4 mm by 2 m by 1 m. After some boring math, this equated to about only 7 mg, because leather is not nearly as dense as steel. (0.8 kg/cm3)

So MK is around Kirby plus around 2.5 kg, if we were to include his steel gloves as well.

If you want to count his sword, 0.3 m by 0.1 m by 0.1 m, made of solid gold, this weighs about 19,300 kg/m3 (again assuming that this is a rectangular prism) this would make the sword a whopping 57.9 kg (128 lbs)!!!
Using a rectangular prism for Meta Knight's mask is faulty. This is a rectangular prism. You'd be better off taking the volume of a cylinder, since the mask is circular and although the area of a circle is πr^2, that only gives the area, not the volume. In order to get the volume, you'd then need to multiply the area of a circle by its height. Since Meta Knight can be assumed to also be 20 cm., we can think of the mask as slightly wider, just because it's in a negative meniscus form and making it perfectly circular would give it the appearance that it's actually widened. Another alternative would be using a spherical cap.

In order to find the volume of a spherical cap, we must use V = πh/6(3a^2 + h^2). Since Meta Knight is assumed to be 20 cm. tall like Kirby, we can increase this by 1 cm. in order to make the base radius of the cap 10.5 cm. If we assumed the mask covered half of Meta Knight, we'd end up with a height of 10 cm. Let's fill in the equation.

V = πh/6(3a^2 + h^2)
V = π(10 cm.)/6(3(10.5 cm.)^2 + (10 cm.)^2)
V = 2,255 cm^3

This source gives us a steel density of 7.85 g/cm^3. There's a lower one, but I'm willing to use this. The mask ends up having a mass of 17,704.9 g., or 17 kg. However, I must have failed to hollow this out and I didn't bother with the visor, which would further reduce the mass. We also don't know what kinds of metals or alloys exist in the Kirby series, so it's really just an assumption.
 
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I did find something on game and watch. In melee, GaW's width was 0.1% of what it would usually be, which was around the width of Captain Falcon to begin with. The same coding was used for flat zone. So GaW definitely does not weigh nothing.
 

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ZSS is 6 feeet 3 inches without her armor and is 198lbs.
 
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