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IC's chain grabs

DarkKyanite

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hi guys, just a quick question here
is there a way for falcon to fight IC if the IC has godly chain grabs?
to completely avoid grabs' not possible when fighting against someone with that lvl of skill.
AZN Lep's IC chain throw and finish with a smash's just too much for me to handle lol
that's an amazing chain grab skill
 

RedYoshi92

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I think the best way to fight an IC's with godly chaingrabs is to not get grabbed and to DI.also try to kill the other IC so that the chaingrabbing is not as devastating.
 

whiteboyninja

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as redyoshi said, the best way to deal with an IC who knows how to abuse grabs is to abuse nana. falcon is one of the, if not the, best at destroying nana. throw stomps, forwardBs, and knees in to her and she wont last. once nana is gone, there is nothing to be scared of.

however, if you double stick DI you can get behind the when they grab and they will sometimes miss. also if you do it away, sometimes you are out of a reach. a REALLY good ice climbers player <ahem, chu> will still get you, but maybe not.

by double stick DI i mean hold the C stick down and behind popo and smash the regular stick up and behind popo the instant nana hits you with the down air, you'll go pretty far.

if you're getting wobbles, call him a loser and dont play with him any more.
 

DarkKyanite

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i don't thik i was getting wobbles
killing nana was the first thing that came into my mind at that time
and i did kill her a few times
but then killing nana under popo'a guard's not as easy as getting a grab by them
maybe i'll try work on dual stick DI? iono but darn i hope they fix this in brawl
 

Rage.

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if you're getting wobbles, call him a loser and dont play with him any more.
If you are getting wobbled then just take a step back and think
"Why did I get grabed?"

Falcons in air 95 percent of the match
Sheild grabing IC's is easy, Nair past sheild, they are really slow

Fast wavedashing IC's are a bit harder to play, just try to make him come to you and
Dair to Down smash or something to seperate them
Always kill Nana,

Dair to Down smash is my favorite IC's Combo.

Best advice though is DONT GET GRABED

honestly
 

DarkKyanite

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don't get grabed = =
so an IC that master the art of grab can't grab someone for 4 times in a match(4 stocks)
yea, falcon's in the air even when he's making instant noodle, but to not get grabed after IC shielded the atk is the hard part even after l cancel and jab.
besides, grab comes in easily after some mind game with DD and WD, and it only have to work 4 times.
i will work on avoiding grabs tho, but i bet even isai gets grab a couple times when fighting against an IC like that. i wonder how does isai face it or what does he do.
 

jmic

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Come check out my video thread. I recently added Azen vs. Chudat, and you can see how he deals with the ICs. Azen actually counterpicks ICs with Falcon because of his speed, and how he can separate the ICs with SHFFLed knees.
 

DarkKyanite

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destroy nana
camp platforms
smash DI chaingrabs as well as possible
fold hands and pray while wobbled
lol i guess these r the only thing a falcon can do if G-Reg stated it. hmm i didn't think about camping since both matches were on FD. maybe i shoulda counter pick a stage that's not as flat next


and thx jmic, i watched them =)
 

alvin224

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i think that basically you cant escape the annoying chain grabbing... basically if they dident have that i dont think they would not be that good... then again... i dont play IC's
 

TheManaLord

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ya man pick the small triple platform stages, yoshis story and battlefield will help against chain grabz, bc u can dair through plats there too
 

IronChief

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3 things

1. ban FD

2. KILL NANA ASAP!

3. Jump around on the platforms till you have open opurtunitys to strike with Dair or knee.
 

choknater

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iron chief hit it on the ball.

watch azen vs chudat: knee the **** out of them. IMO, it doesn't really matter which one you knee as long as it connects. nana dying is just a plus.
 

TheManaLord

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ya and once ur done throwing out random knees and uairs stomps and dsmashes... the icey clomblets percent differences will be huge so any attack will seperate em like crazy
 
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