Ive been playing online and IRL recentaly, and they are the characters that i seem to not be able to beat. I think the reason why is because thier chain grabs (duh) and the desync move, its like a giant wall you cant get by, i really dont know how i can beat them, they arent that hard to gimp (kinda) but they are a pain to fight, someone please bestow some knowledge upon me on your IC experinces