Ice Climbers accidentally confirmed?

[UberPyro64]

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-might-not-release-at-the-same-time

It seems in an interview with IGN, Sakurai was talking about the 3DS version and the difficulty on that version of programing characters that incorporate more than one fighter such as the Ice Climbers which was used as an example by Sakurai. So does this mean they have been confirmed to return? Or were they just merely an example? I'd like to think it was more than that but who knows.

 

[DefenseTech]

Ic's need to be removed

 

[Hello.]

It was more-or-less used as an example, and it seems to me, Sakurai didn't actually say "such as Ice Climbers," it was something the editor added for clarification.

 

[Hickory]

I mean... we knew they would be in. They're a staple of the franchise at this point.

 

[Deleted member]

I never like Ice Climbers. But there's a decent probability that they'll return. Along with Peach and Zelda.

 

[UberPyro64]

Regardless of if it was an example or not I think it's safe to assume that they'll be back regardless. The only character that has appeared in two games at least that I could see going is Falco and this is mostly due to the roster possibly being smaller.

 

[Deleted member]

Regardless of if it was an example or not I think it's safe to assume that they'll be back regardless. The only character that has appeared in two games at least that I could see going is Falco and this is mostly due to the roster possibly being smaller.

The roster will be the same size as brawl's, but with different cast of characters.

 

[soviet prince]

The roster will be the same size as brawl's, but with different cast of characters.

that would be lame as hell

 

[UberPyro64]

The roster will be the same size as brawl's, but with different cast of characters.

No. It was confirmed that the cast will be the same on both. Stages however will be different.

 

[DakotaBonez]

The roster will have the same library of characters as the wii u version.
SOURCE: http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533

Sakurai also stated that characters would have to be "reduced".

Theres already a thread in dismay over this interpreting what Sakurai said as confirmation that characters would be removed or the next smash would feature less characters than Brawl because the 3DS doesn't have enough memory.

I think what Sakurai meant was that they are going to change the Ice Climbers to a single Climber in the next game so that there is no lag on the 3DS version from 8 ice climbers fighting at once. I'm cool with this because it never made sense to control them both at the same time when they play solo in their actual game.

Similar reductions may happen to other characters if it could cause lag on the 3DS version, which is understandable but makes me disappointed that they have to work within 3DS boundaries on the Wii U version.

 

[Winston!]

I hope they don't get rid of Ice Climbers. I never used them but they are one of the most unique fighters in the roster. Luigi should be revamped with the Poltergust 3000 and Ganondorf's move set should actually reflect his character.

The roster will certainly be Brawl size or smaller so there probably will be cuts. Most likely Falco & Lucario, maybe Lucas & Snake. Other than that I dunno who else they will cut. Obviously the original 12 are returning.

 

[SKM_NeoN]

Ic's need to be removed

Nooo Zangief are you stoopid? The Ice Climbers did nothing to you, how could you even think such a thing?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The roster will certainly be Brawl size or smaller so there probably will be cuts. Most likely Falco & Lucario, maybe Lucas & Snake. Other than that I dunno who else they will cut. Obviously the original 12 are returning.

Why would the roster be smaller than Brawl's?

And being in the original 12 isn't a guarantee. Jigglypuff was almost removed in Brawl. She got kinda lucky.

 

[FalKoopa]

There might be a solo Ice Climber in the 3DS version. Just a thought.

 

[UberPyro64]

For cuts, I can see Toon Link, R.O.B., Falco, Wolf, Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard), Lucario, Ike, Lucas, Snake and Sonic. They could get rid of transformations also due to the 3DS so no Sheik or Zero Suit Samus but I don't think so cause they do add to the characters quite a bit. So 12 cuts all together of Brawl's 39 so we having only 27 Veterans. And then we get around 12 newcomers would make a lot of sense. Of course with that I notice exactly a third of 27 veterans have been announced and a quarter of the newcomers as well. Lol that was coincidental. Maybe I'm right.

Anyway for newcomers, I bet Dixie Kong, Palutena, Genesect, Mewtwo with his Awakened Form and Chrom will make up the veterans from existing series while, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Takamaru, Little Mac and Shulk will represent retro/new series. It seems Mega Man will be the only third party rep this time based on what Sakurai's been saying but because of IGN, he could decide to add Pac-Man but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

So yeah, I'm expecting the same amount as Brawl's roster.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Worse chars always get announced first...megaman exception ofc hes 3rd party.

 

[Artsy Omni]

There might be a solo Ice Climber in the 3DS version. Just a thought.

That makes no sense. The principle of "same library of characters on both versions" requires that the characters play the same way. Otherwise, what's the point of having the same characters?

 

[volbound1700]

I will note that Sakurai stated that the team is "working hard" to ensure every character returns. Basically he wants them all back but it may not happen. It isn't as bad as pre-Brawl were he directly said someone would be cut.

 

[Deleted member]

If Ice Climber will be solo, I hope you'll have an option of play as either Popo or Nana.

 

[CRASHiC]

Ice Climbers are such a conflicting thing really in just about every way.

On one hand they represent the launch of the NES.
On the other hand they are without a doubt one of the weakest IPs Nintendo has ever had, and Nintendo doesn't seem to care about doing anything with them.

On one hand they are a really unique character with an interesting playstyle.
On the other they are a very polarizing character.

I feel bad for whoever has to make calls on them, it's gotta be a tough decision.

 

[psyniac_123]

And being in the original 12 isn't a guarantee. Jigglypuff was almost removed in Brawl. She got kinda lucky.

I've heard this twice this week. Is there somewhere I can read this officially because I'd not heard that before now.

 

[DefenseTech]

If they are going to keep them, they need to figure out how to do them properly...

They have been broken in both games.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Worse chars always get announced first...megaman exception ofc hes 3rd party.

With Brawl the best characters were confirmed first imo, being Meta Knight and Wario. Amazing additions. This reveal has been pretty weird up 'till now, though the only characters I actually want in the game are Ridley and K. Rool now that Mega Man has been confirmed, so it's probably just because the majority of my favorite characters are already in the game.

If they are going to keep them, they need to figure out how to do them properly...

They have been broken in both games.

They just need to make their characters center around something else than chain grabbing.

 

[ChozoBoy]

I've heard this twice this week. Is there somewhere I can read this officially because I'd not heard that before now.

I assume this is a guess based on her lack of a role in Adventure Mode. Presumably, those three characters and Sonic were created during or after the story.

 

[psyniac_123]

I assume this is a guess based on her lack of a role in Adventure Mode. Presumably, those three characters and Sonic were created during or after the story.

That's actually a pretty interesting point I never thought of before. Thanks.

 

[Hypercat-Z]

If Ice Climber will be solo, I hope you'll have an option of play as either Popo or Nana.

You also had! In half of the alt colors (included the original) Nana becomes the leader.
I think we will never get rid of them or Jigglypuff, so we can just hope they will become more interesting this time.
I would introduce this change: If the leader of the couple is being sweeped off, the controls pass to the other one and you can keep playing. What do you think?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Maybe Ice Climbers had the most Gigabytes

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I've heard this twice this week. Is there somewhere I can read this officially because I'd not heard that before now.

Jigglypuff was on the list of low priority characters along with Toon Link and Wolf. After including what he thought were necessities, Sakurai started to go down this list and add as many as he can. Jigglyouff was among the first on the list. Characters on the list that didn't make it were probably Mewtwo and Roy.

 

[Deleted member]

You also had! In half of the alt colors (included the original) Nana becomes the leader.
I think we will never get rid of them or Jigglypuff, so we can just hope they will become more interesting this time.
I would introduce this change: If the leader of the couple is being sweeped off, the controls pass to the other one and you can keep playing. What do you think?

That's also a good idea.

 

[Fatmanonice]

The Ice Climbers represent the first genuinely unique characters that he personally picked for a Smash Bros game; I think he's going to go out of his way to keep them in. He's already suggested that he's seriously considering delaying the release of the 3DS version until the problem is hammered out (pun somewhat intended) so I think there's a high probability that they will stay in the game in playable form.