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IASA frames during landing lag + QD

metroid1117

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I posted this in the Competitive Brawl area of the forum, but I saw no harm in showing this to my Ike brethren. I apologize if you have found this out already, but I haven't seen any posts about this and hoped that at least someone could learn from this.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wdjuWxzdOz8

First off, before asking what IASA frames are, please read the video description.

As you can see, buffering a shield while landing causes Ike's IASA frames during landing lag to be revealed. While this can speed up your gameplay, it is not as important as L-canceling was. The IASA frames come up about when Ike starts to lift his arm up.

I did some testing of my own; I determined FAir to have +/- 29 frames of lag (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairlagshko1.jpg), then I determined that FAir's IASA frames come up at +/- frame 22 (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fairiasatr2.jpg). This saves you roughly 7 frames of lag; it's pretty significant, seeing that you can make it even harder for people to punish you after a well-spaced FAir.

While I do not have a video demonstration of Quick Draw having IASA frames, you can do it yourself; first, QD so that you whiff, and notice how there is a slight lag time in which Ike draws his arm up after stopping (look for the white smoke). Next, QD but hold shield; if you look closely, you'll notice that he skipped part of his stopping animation.

Note that IASA frames are most easily seen in 1/4th speed in Training Mode; just buffer your things with shield and you'll see where they are.
 

3xSwords

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hey metroid about the QD reversal while running. I think you have to do it B-reversal, I think I just thought you didn't have to do a b-reversal b/c I was doing it. But I think I was fox trotting which explains a lot, but yeah I still wouldn't use QD that much IMO. sorry about the confusion.
 

metroid1117

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hey metroid about the QD reversal while running. I think you have to do it B-reversal, I think I just thought you didn't have to do a b-reversal b/c I was doing it. But I think I was fox trotting which explains a lot, but yeah I still wouldn't use QD that much IMO. sorry about the confusion.
It's okay; I didn't think it was of much use either :laugh:.
 
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