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LumpyCPU...

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i've been longing to write a novel for quite a while now.
i have a few concepts i'm in love with, but what i lack isn't ideas... it's experience.
i'm actually very confident in my abilities (or at least that i will like what i write) but i'm not sure how to start such a big project.

any words of advice?
 

Luigitoilet

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Just do it, and don't post it here. The only way to get experience is to do. You might want to try writing smaller things first, rather than just jump into whatever big dream project in your head.
 

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I used to like writing stories based off of video game concepts and characters, like my own characters and story in those worlds and found it easier to write. This is not what I am most proud to do, but after a while of that I found myself a touch more experienced then I am. Soon it will be gradually easier and easier to combine your ideas with plot and etc.
 

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I think fanfiction is a legitimate stage in this generation's writer's development. Arguably, it's a core skill of writing.

I think any writer on this site that I'd consider "good" started off writing fanfiction. LT did, as he admitted. Scav, arguably the best on this site, did. tmw_redcell and Revolutions (RIP bud) both did. I (I don't consider myself a good writer these days, but I did at one point) also started.

It gives you some core ideas that you can wrestle with. Characters, setting, plot, it gives you those things early writers might have trouble with, and as you build on your skills of executing a good portrayal of a character that isn't yours, you build on your skills at DEVELOPING a character. And from there, through experience (and a little human observation, maybe), you learn to craft or create characters.

On the thing about fanfiction, I offer you this: A common way to get a job in Hollywood as a screenwriter? If you're lucky, you might find an agent, and that agent might find you a studio company looking for [insert description of plot, with comparisons of three successful such films]. Your skills at transplanting your own inner awesome into material that's not all yours suddenly become crucial.

Or better yet, what if you wanted a job at ABC on their writing staff? You might have an agent send them a hypothetical monologue for Kimmel, or maybe you'll write a few episodes of Lost.

In fact, you could end up writing for a network and plunked into a spot on the writing staff of a show you don't even like or know anything about! Boy howdy do those skills suddenly become important.




That's right, I highjacked your thread into a discussion of why fanfiction is nothing to be ashamed of.


For you: I had the same problem, and the problem will persist if you have zero experience and attempt to write. Trust me on that one. Writing is not like riding a bike. Having the balls to take the training wheels off and 20 minutes to kill is not all it takes. I say start thinking of shorter, non-dream-project concepts first that you feel just as passionate about and write a lot of short stories. Like, a lot.

The last time I attempted to write a novel -- and this was back when I considered myself a good writer -- it started out well, but I found myself unable to maintain the quality standard and passion I was expecting of myself. My conclusion? I'm still not ready, and so here I am, writing short stories until I feel like I've "got it" again.
 

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thanks for the input.
i see it's safe to assume you are all obviously more knowledgeable and experienced in this field than i am.
i completely see how that could/should help develop certain skill needed to become a "good writer".

the problem is that applying this to my specific situation presents more than a few flaws.
i don't like writing within a confined space. FREEDOM!
i used to despise writing anything in any literature class i've ever had.
i was in several advanced classes, most of which were literature, and i did well on just about every project i did. (not to say i did every project hehe)

i can't comfortably write about someone elses characters, stories, or concepts.
i'm not looking to become a writer for ABC or even make a living as a writer.

i simply long to write a novel or two.
 

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Heh, as I admitted, I was just hijacking your thread briefly to talk about fanfiction since it had come up. Maybe I'll make a thread or that discussion one day.



My advice to you was to just to start on short stories and write a hell of a lot of them, which will build your various skills in writing. Sharpen your blades so to speak. Any talk about fanfiction related at most on the incidental level to your situation. If you don't like writing in a confined space, don't do it, jump right into some original story ideas. Just don't tackle The Novel until you've got a good few notches on your belt, because I can promise even Hemingway-level innate talent won't counterbalance your inexperience.
 

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i probably should.
i have this complex to get over first.
i see every idea as either too good to condense and waste on a short story, or not good enough to put any time into.

thanks for the advice.

are there any recommended forums or message boards for writing?
i mean... smashboards? haha
 

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I want to write too but a piece of advice, start off with writing good grammar ON YOUR TOPIC TITLE! You'll never make it with simple mistakes like not capitalizing! Lol
 

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The Write With Your Power subforum here is exactly what you need. We do writing contests in there every once in a while -- you get a topic/prompt from the judges and a time limit to write a short story about it. I've tried to enter as many as I could when not judging because a prompt is basically free inspiration.

Each entry you put into a WWYP contest will typically garner indepth criticism spanning across a few topics from each of the (usually three) judges.


EDIT: To roacherman: casual typing =/= how you type when you're writing. Thanks for playing.
 

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i probably should.
i have this complex to get over first.
i see every idea as either too good to condense and waste on a short story, or not good enough to put any time into.

thanks for the advice.

are there any recommended forums or message boards for writing?
i mean... smashboards? haha
In the Novel Writing Support thread we've already had some pretty great discussions about the craft. You should check it out. Maybe you can make use of something someone said in there.
 

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I want to write too but a piece of advice, start off with writing good grammar ON YOUR TOPIC TITLE! You'll never make it with simple mistakes like not capitalizing! Lol
i would really enjoy having a novel published with out the first letters of sentences or names capitalized.
i'm sure i would irritate every reader, but it would be worth it to me.
 

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I had something similar with you, where I wanted to write this novel but was sort of scared to write it. For me, it's because I really liked the concept of it but didn't want to write it and have it be bad. Honestly, first drafts are always bad for any long project, unless you spent years on it and think about everything you put down. Evil Eye read what I wrote, and the best part of it was when I stayed up one night and wrote about 30 pages in a few hours without really thinking about where it was going, just because it was practice and the more you write the better you get.
 

LumpyCPU...

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it feels as if i have an idea for the best recipe in the world. i have limited amounts of ingredients and i'm not best cook yet, but i want to create this delectable dish as soon as i can. how can i work to become a good enough cook to create the perfect entre when that perfect entre is the only thing i have enough resources to make? obviously this isn't a very accurate metaphor, but exaduration is key.
 
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