I Want Black Doom.

[Lecto2007]

If theres one more unsung character i personally would Like to see Black Doom From Shadow the hedgehog In the Brawl. But Dont get me wrong i dont want to sway the balance of Sega characters to high but i mean this guy form e would be the icing on the cake of a perfect game.
I mean he's Like Ganondorf to link but Black Doom To Shadow i mean the main villan in the sonic franchise but i mean how long till we all grew up from those days he's easily deafeted and its becoming Cheesy. Black Doom Brings Depth Into Shadow the hedgehogs Existence in the first place.
What Are Your Views Kind People?

 

[finalark]

.... Never did think of him...

can you come up with a move list?

 

[bballstar23]

If theres one more unsung character i personally would Like to see Black Doom From Shadow the hedgehog In the Brawl. But Dont get me wrong i dont want to sway the balance of Sega characters to high but i mean this guy form e would be the icing on the cake of a perfect game.
I mean he's Like Ganondorf to link but Black Doom To Shadow i mean the main villan in the sonic franchise but i mean how long till we all grew up from those days he's easily deafeted and its becoming Cheesy. Black Doom Brings Depth Into Shadow the hedgehogs Existence in the first place.
What Are Your Views Kind People?

How is he a major villain if he's only appeared in one crappy game? I'm sorry, but I'm not even sure if he has chances as a boss. If they take anyone from the Sonic universe, it will be someone major, who's actually had a big impact on the series. Not many people around here like Shadow, so I doubt they'll like this guy.

 

[Lecto2007]

Well To Be Honest I Never Have Given the move List Too Much Depth In Thought, But Im Sure one of them Could Also be Dooms Eye To Follow And Attack one of the enemies and his final smash could be somewhat of him calling on his minions to the battlefield and wiping them out.
But I personally have hardly time to think of this But Anyone could help me out with this it would be really cool. Black Doom Needed in Brawl.

 

[Lecto2007]

How is he a major villain if he's only appeared in one crappy game? I'm sorry, but I'm not even sure if he has chances as a boss. If they take anyone from the Sonic universe, it will be someone major, who's actually had a big impact on the series.

Such AS Who???? EGGMAN? You think deep into the sonic franchise and pick someone who you think the label fits? Noone the only major villan in sonic is eggman who never makes an impact but just there to fill the shoes. Im telling you shadow the hedgehog game really was a let down but to shunt down Black doom Out of the equation is extreme to an extent. Think of it in zelda theres Ganondorf and theres no character equivalent to that in sonic. So theres always going to be a barrier in the sonic franchise that needs to be broken.

 

[Squadalah]

Black Doom sucks huh huh huh

 

[antimatter]

eggman was the first boss, like ganon/ganondorf was. are you insane, crazy, or just out of your mind?

 

[Lecto2007]

well i take it you all prefer to see eggman in then?

 

[bballstar23]

Such AS Who???? EGGMAN? You think deep into the sonic franchise and pick someone who you think the label fits? Noone the only major villan in sonic is eggman who never makes an impact but just there to fill the shoes. Im telling you shadow the hedgehog game really was a let down but to shunt down Black doom Out of the equation is extreme to an extent. Think of it in zelda theres Ganondorf and theres no character equivalent to that in sonic. So theres always going to be a barrier in the sonic franchise that needs to be broken.

Just tell me how you can remotely compare Ganondorf to Black Doom. They're not similar at all in abilities or importance to their franchises. Ganondorf has been in almost every Zelda game since the first one, while Black Doom has been in one Sonic spinoff. Eggman or Dr. Robotnik would be much better because he's been a main villain in the Sonic franchise since the very first game. Explain to me how Eggman hasn't made an impact to the series if he's been around for so long. If anything, your comparison of Black Doom and Ganondorf is extreme. I'm sorry, but I really don't think you know what you're talking about.

 

[Lecto2007]

Well You Explain to Me Why The latest Sonic Games Have all Been Failures If its not the camera angles its the glitches or poor layouts. Its All Lack of plot Introducing New characters to the sonic franchise isn't the key its a loss of character description constitency i mean SA2B Dr Eggman decides to help sonic and Co. Do you seriously ever imagine Ganondorf helping out link i doubt it. If your gonna Create an Evil character then stay along that path. Tell Me If once ever you have actually Beat Dr. Eggman in a sonic game and think to yourself "Wow That was Intense" No Sonic is losing its audiences as its more reflecting to children and kids. But I Must agree with you My Comparison Between Black doom and ganondorf was extreme but i chose to do so so that you can see what eggman lacks to be the antagonist in the sonic franchises, And not to compare what moves they may have in super smash bros brawl.
I Know fully what I'm Trying to say and to be honest i think you have staryed to far from the point i was trying to make when i started this thread. Your view on my opening post was to vague leading to A Misunderstanding.

 

[bballstar23]

Well You Explain to Me Why The latest Sonic Games Have all Been Failures If its not the camera angles its the glitches or poor layouts. Its All Lack of plot Introducing New characters to the sonic franchise isn't the key its a loss of character description constitency i mean SA2B Dr Eggman decides to help sonic and Co. Do you seriously ever imagine Ganondorf helping out link i doubt it. If your gonna Create an Evil character then stay along that path. Tell Me If once ever you have actually Beat Dr. Eggman in a sonic game and think to yourself "Wow That was Intense" No Sonic is losing its audiences as its more reflecting to children and kids. But I Must agree with you My Comparison Between Black doom and ganondorf was extreme but i chose to do so so that you can see what eggman lacks to be the antagonist in the sonic franchises, And not to compare what moves they may have in super smash bros brawl.
I Know fully what I'm Trying to say and to be honest i think you have staryed to far from the point i was trying to make when i started this thread. Your view on my opening post was to vague leading to A Misunderstanding.

Woah, slow down. I never said the latest games were failures, but I said Shadow the Hedgehog was. I personally liked a lot of the other ones, like Sonic Adventure 2 and the Sonic stages in the next gen one. Like you said though, introducing these new characters is what's ruining the Sonic franchise, and Black Doom is one of them. The thing is that he's only appeared in that one spinoff, which isn't very memorable. You only keep comparing Ganondorf and Link, but look at Bowser and Mario. They have been allies in a few games as well, but that doesn't ruin the legitimacy of Bowser as a villain. What I'm trying to say, is that if any villain gets in, it'll be Eggman. It doesn't matter if he's not "evil" enough; he's had a greater impact on the series as a whole.

 

[Lecto2007]

SEE THATS THE POINT IM TRYING TO MAKE YOU JUST GOT IT BRILLIANT YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
Bowser and mario are classic you have fun tossing mario by the tail into bombs and fighting him from planet to planet. But sonic And eggman are just not classic anymore theres something mario and bowser have that eggman and sonic dont and thats consitent Wonderful fun gameplay and great games. I Love sonic games but i cant always be defending them Ive Had everysing sonic game since Sonic Adventure. But i Feel sonic is fading away into the distance behind the gameplay standards of today. The Thing i recomended Black Doom Is Because Noone thought of him It would be A surprise if he was in brawl and i dont mean A Protest Or An angry Mob Outside the nintendo headquarters. But Eggman Is Not A Villan That Is Anything But challenging or cool. Bowser has something eggman doesnt thats why i dont like Dr Robotnik and i selected black doom instead.

 

[bballstar23]

SEE THATS THE POINT IM TRYING TO MAKE YOU JUST GOT IT BRILLIANT YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
Bowser and mario are classic you have fun tossing mario by the tail into bombs and fighting him from planet to planet. But sonic And eggman are just not classic anymore theres something mario and bowser have that eggman and sonic dont and thats consitent Wonderful fun gameplay and great games. I Love sonic games but i cant always be defending them Ive Had everysing sonic game since Sonic Adventure. But i Feel sonic is fading away into the distance behind the gameplay standards of today. The Thing i recomended Black Doom Is Because Noone thought of him It would be A surprise if he was in brawl and i dont mean A Protest Or An angry Mob Outside the nintendo headquarters. But Eggman Is Not A Villan That Is Anything But challenging or cool. Bowser has something eggman doesnt thats why i dont like Dr Robotnik and i selected black doom instead.

It doesn't necessarily matter what Eggman's done recently though at all. To understand his importance you have to play the older games as well, which is why he greatly outweighs Black Doom in importance. "Cool" is subjective, and while you may not think people won't mind that he's in Brawl, I can tell you now that a lot of people would be pretty angry if he was in, especially as a third party villain many people don't know about.

 

[vesperview]

No chance at all, not even a sticker, kthxbai!

 

[shadenexus18]

He'd only get in if Shadow somehow made it onto Brawl seeing how he's Shadow's antagonist.

 

[Wolfgang457]

I personally don't think we need to replace Eggman with this... thing. I think what really needs to be done is to give the series a bit of an overhaul or possibly make the series a bit darker like the comics. Either way I don't know if you played Sonic Rush but I thought the eggman fights in that game were awesome, but perhaps they could think of new ways to apply bosses in Sonic that isn't always Eggman in a robot.

 

[Lecto2007]

Says Who We Always get heroes but hardly any villans except ganondorf and bowser meta knight is a good installment but other than that smash is turning goody to shoes

 

[shinhed-echi]

Black Doom was pulverized... turned into something smaller than stardust. There's no way he could've survived that! Not even for a SSB storyline...

We can hope for his return in a possible Shadow the Hedgehog 2. :D

 

[MFZ95]

he is a darth vader rip off!plus Stone Cold Steve Austin has a better chance of being in than Black Doom

 

[Got Blood?]

No chance at all, not even a sticker, kthxbai!

Done done and done!

 

[Lord Viper]

Well, Shadow the Hedgehog is a Sonic game so he could be an enemy or a sticker in Brawl.

 

[SonicMario]

I will not be surprised if Black Doom is not even mentioned in the game. Black Doom's best chances are a sticker. And you don't really have many characters that have a low chance at being a sticker. If any villian were to appear in Brawl representing Sonic. It would be Robotnik/Eggman or Metal Sonic.

 

[blayde_axel]

Says Who We Always get heroes but hardly any villans except ganondorf and bowser meta knight is a good installment but other than that smash is turning goody to shoes

Who's Sonic's arch-enemy? There you go.

And use a period for once for God's sake.

 

[MarthTrinity]

Well if you don't think Eggman's hardcore enough to be the Sonic villian because he helps Sonic in SA2:B...Metal Sonic would like to say hello.

 

[Naoshi]

Oh come on you gotta be kidding me if you want him playable. At best he'd be a sticker/trophy. The Shadow game isn't well liked enough to even have him as a boss.

 

[Lecto2007]

I Agree With Metal sonic as a villan seeing as he just skipped my mind.

 

[Gerudo Warrior]

i feel. like hurting myself when i see positive posts in this thread. this guy wants... omg lets look at it

1) sega rep

2) villain in shadow the hedgehog. the sonic game that was so crap it gave a new meaning to crap

3) he isn't even a important villain.

4) shadow the hedgehog is the crappiest sonic character yet

5) crappiest thread yet

 

[RyuDragonKing]

*ahem*.................


NO MORE SEGA!!!

I'm sorry, but having one character in is enough.

 

[SonicMario]

i feel. like hurting myself when i see positive posts in this thread. this guy wants... omg lets look at it

1) another sega rep

Just a little fix

2) villain in shadow the hedgehog. the sonic game that was so crap it gave a new meaning to crap

QFT

3) he isn't even a important villain.

QFT

4) shadow the hedgehog is the crappiest sonic character yet

QFT. Even though saddenly he has become very popular even after his game.

5) crappiest thread yet

I'm not a supporter of this type of 3 word flaming. There were much more stupid threads I'm sure.

 

[Gerudo Warrior]

master chief threads are stupider. but this guy won't even make sticker

 

[Regiwi]

Such AS Who???? EGGMAN? You think deep into the sonic franchise and pick someone who you think the label fits? Noone the only major villan in sonic is eggman who never makes an impact but just there to fill the shoes.

You are kidding right? I had to open this up to see if it was a serious thread. Man. He's an evil alien. That's it. There's absolutely nothing else. He was created purely to fill the shoes as you put it of Shadows dark nature, not for any other purpose.

Gannon is linked to Link through the triforce, has a hinted at back story (The only Male Gerudo born in a 100 or whatever years and the king of thieves) a motivation 'The suffering the Gerudo's endured due to the light of the sun in the desert', and finally he's an expert of manipulation. Black Doom's an alien who tricks Shadow into helping him. That's it.

I don't want to see Shadow in Brawl since the classics are the true Sonic anyway. Metal Sonic's as far as I'll go for recent characters I like. Oh and on Robotnik, if you think he's just some wimpy loser, play Sonic CD. This game gives you a rare chance to see what would happen to a world where Robotnik reigns. The sky's polluted, everything is mechanised, even the trees, all life is dead or being used as batteries for Robotniks robots. Are these truely the acts of a comical villain? His world is THE darkest most gloomy depressing world of any Sonic games. Robotnik may have gone down now, but he's one of my favourite characters in the Sonic series.

Oh and also the Label fits Metal Sonic. A creation gone wrong, he's purely motivated by his purpose, to the extent of abandoning Robotnik to achieve it. He has no good side.

 

[Naoshi]

You are kidding right? I had to open this up to see if it was a serious thread. Man. He's an evil alien. That's it. There's absolutely nothing else. He was created purely to fill the shoes as you put it of Shadows dark nature, not for any other purpose.

Gannon is linked to Link through the triforce, has a hinted at back story (The only Male Gerudo born in a 100 or whatever years and the king of thieves) a motivation 'The suffering the Gerudo's endured due to the light of the sun in the desert', and finally he's an expert of manipulation. Black Doom's an alien who tricks Shadow into helping him. That's it.

I don't want to see Shadow in Brawl since the classics are the true Sonic anyway. Metal Sonic's as far as I'll go for recent characters I like. Oh and on Robotnik, if you think he's just some wimpy loser, play Sonic CD. This game gives you a rare chance to see what would happen to a world where Robotnik reigns. The sky's polluted, everything is mechanised, even the trees, all life is dead or being used as batteries for Robotniks robots. Are these truely the acts of a comical villain? His world is THE darkest most gloomy depressing world of any Sonic games. Robotnik may have gone down now, but he's one of my favourite characters in the Sonic series.

Oh and also the Label fits Metal Sonic. A creation gone wrong, he's purely motivated by his purpose, to the extent of abandoning Robotnik to achieve it. He has no good side.

QTF. Eggman/Robotnik >>>>>>>>> Black Doom and Mephiles

 

[Homelessvagrant]

Being the inforcer of justice, I can let no Shadow the hedgehog rubbish appear in this game. This game will be perfect, I am fighting to get rid of 4kids influence as we speak. So no, generic villains of forgotten games never win.

 

[notftomearth7]

For SSE= IDEAL BOSS
Character=

 

[Lecto2007]

See How its all missed from the plot its always supposed to be Technology against nature Sonic Aganist Eggman But its not like that anymore. Why do you think sonic games arent as good as before now? Ive Had every single sonic game since Sonic Adventure Im A Big sonic fan. But Eggman Dont Cut It For me nomore the plot seems morel ike power rangers rubbish then actuall sonic. Mephiles Or Black Doom Including Metal Sonic Would Have My Vote To even have a glimpse of the game than eggman him i hate. Whether it be Sticker or AT Or Actuall playable characters it would be an honour.
Now Im Sorry But now im enraged at the fact that you guys still like eggman as a villan. its not a game a teenager would play But for kids under the age of 10 if eggmans the villan. Your telling me In recent Sonic Games Eggman has Be a worthy opponent by his side living up to the expectatons of whats needed to be filled.
Mephiles>>>>>>Black Doom>>>>>>>Metal sonic whether appearing in one game or all of them are fine by me to enter the smash World. Eggmans A Disgraced i wouldnt of minded if i was still an 8 years old but quite frankly im not.

 

[Lecto2007]

but he's one of my favourite characters in the Sonic series.

Just To State If Your Still Liking Eggmans Modern character descrpition and personallity you must not be ready to move on in the video game world. You tell me what you like about him in the first place? Hes original yes i agree but Now hes crap and needs to be axed straight up!

 

[Lecto2007]

eggman was the first boss, like ganon/ganondorf was. are you insane, crazy, or just out of your mind?

And As For You What Villan Do You Want in Brawl?? Eggman??? I think you were either born with one eye and one ear so you cant actually tell how bad eggman sucks. He Started off good in the 2D GAMES <<<<<<<<<<<<< Quote that if you want to. But As Of Sonic Adventure The Blood Line was Crossed! Thats The Start of his downfall.

 

[SonicMario]

People like Robotnik/Eggman because he is a classic. He was the one who got rid of your lives saved up, the things he did were suppose to motivate you to defeat him, most of all: He is the Bowser (Although not litteraly) of the Sonic series More non-Sonic fans would know who Robotnik is more then "WTF? Who's Black Doom?!?".

Smash characters are either in by popularity (How Sonic got in Brawl) or to Sakauri's liking (How Ice Climbers got in both games). And unless Sakauri plays Shadow the Hedgehog, the latter isn't possible. And even if Black Doom had a big fanbase (Which I believe it's almost nothing), Black Doom is just too new and too much un-recognition.

Back to Robotnik, He will not be getting the axe soon. Robotnik will stay in the Sonic series as long as that series makes games. And has Black Doom ever appeared again after Shadow the Hedgehog? No. Will he appear again? Most likely not.

To end this, I will put this one statement: Even Big the dumb*** Cat is more likely in even getting reference in Brawl then Black Doom is.

 

[Lecto2007]

People like Robotnik/Eggman because he is a classic. He was the one who got rid of your lives saved up, the things he did were suppose to motivate you to defeat him, most of all: He is the Bowser (Although not litteraly) of the Sonic series More non-Sonic fans would know who Robotnik is more then "WTF? Who's Black Doom?!?".

Smash characters are either in by popularity (How Sonic got in Brawl) or to Sakauri's liking (How Ice Climbers got in both games). And unless Sakauri plays Shadow the Hedgehog, the latter isn't possible. And even if Black Doom had a big fanbase (Which I believe it's almost nothing), Black Doom is just too new and too much un-recognition.

Back to Robotnik, He will not be getting the axe soon. Robotnik will stay in the Sonic series as long as that series makes games. And has Black Doom ever appeared again after Shadow the Hedgehog? No. Will he appear again? Most likely not.

To end this, I will put this one statement: Even Big the dumb*** Cat is more likely in even getting reference in Brawl then Black Doom is.

So You Tell Me In anyways Possible. Who You Think today not talking baout classics or nothing the better villan? Eggman>>>>>>Or Black Doom/Mephiles

 

[Williampettysan]

*Prays a cute wittle chao takes over Black Doom's place as a sticker.*