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I seriously just take my favorite pokemon and throw them together [UU Team]

EmuKiller

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Hey Guys! I need some advice! That's why I'm on this section of the forum! You'll notice that I actually have 7 pokemon posted here and well... I just can't decide who to use! I'll let you read though and see for yourself.


OFFENSE:

Lead:

Arcanine @Lum Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Naughty
EVs: 192 HP/252 Atk/64 Spd
~ Extremespeed
~ Flare Blitz
~ HP Grass
~ Toxic

Flare blitz and extremespeed are self-explanatory. I like toxic because it can really cripple most bulky waters which come in to absorb the flare blitz. Hidden power is a necessity against rain dance team because it almost OHKOs both Kabutops and Omastar which may switch in after Crobat\Ambipom\Electrode has set up the rain, and it can also finish off a bulky water. Kind of a weird lead, but HEY! Trust me it works.


SR/Rapid Spinner:

Donphan @leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
Nature: Adament
52 HP / 252 Atk / 204 Def
~ Rapid Spin
~ Earthquake
~ Assurance / Ice Shard??
~ Stealth Rock

Donphans makes it possible for my sweepers to switch in and out without taking damage from entry hazards. EQ is used the most due to the damage it deals to most of UU, Assurance is extremely helpful against the obvious Rotom and Mismagius that like to switch in. Ice Shard gives nice priority against fast threats, but I can only use it if I’m keeping Registeel over Spiritomb. Ice Shard would also be his most powerful attack against Torterra and Tropius. Stealth Rock would instead be used for the obvious ability to SR without the ground weakness or steel-type that are often easily countered.


Sweeper:

Blaziken @Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Rash
EVs: 6 Atk/252 SpA/252 Spe
~ Fire Blast
~ HP Grass
~ Superpower
~ Vacuum Wave

Blaziken serves as a mixed attacker using Fire Blast as his most powerful move, easily dispatching Registeel, Steelix, Meganium and various other walls weak to Fire. HP Grass is chosen over Electric to help deal with bulky waters (something I’m SUPER worried about). Superpower deals the nice OHKO on steels and normals, while Vacuum Wave is a priority move to help with his average speed. He and arcanine are both helped by wish a lot!

DEFENSE:

Spin Blocker:

Spiritomb @leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful
EVs: 208 HP / 184 Atk / 116 SpD
~ Taunt
~ Pursuit
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Pain Split
Pursuit is picked over sucker punch because I feel it has a more universal use. I’d rather get the guaranteed hit off, although I guess I could just will-o-wisp when I sense the switch is coming? Will-O-Wisp is for the physical attackers who may try to switch in on Spiritomb. Taunt is used to stop specially-based sweepers. Pain Split gives Spiritomb some form of recovery aside from wish, which will hopefully help me stall harder. I like him a lot, but I'll let you see my alternate too! Also, sucker punch or Pursuit? I'm still not sure!!


Stall/Wishpass:

Clefable @leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
Nature: Careful
252 HP / 44 Def / 212 SpD
~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Seismic Toss
~ Toxic

Clefable is probably the most important member in my team, keeping my sweepers alive through Wish support. Also a bit of a special wall and can stall super well. Seismic Toss is to hit the Steels and Poison Pokemon that aren't affected by Toxic. Other than that, a pretty standard wishpass Clefable.


Bulky Water:

Milotic @Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe
~ Surf
~ Hidden Power Grass
~ Recover
~ Ice beam / Toxic?
A Bulky Water to help take the hits and give the switch ins between arcanine and blaziken. Surf for the STAB damage, HP Grass to counter other bulky waters, Recover to add to the stallness, and Ice Beam mostly for altaria who otherwise walls this completely. Toxic is the other option, but I'm just more weary of my team becoming too toxic relient (SERIOUSLY GUYS I THINK I HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE WITH TOXIC ON MY TEAM).


Alternates:


Registeel @leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/24 Atk/232 SDef
~ Explosion
~ Thunder Wave
~ Stealth Rock
~ Iron Head

This would be a replacement for Spiritomb which I'm still considering! With its high defences and useful resistances to flying\grass\ghost\bug, Registeel is a great support pokemon. Registeel can’t really touch Crobat which will out-stall it with roost, but that’s what explode is for after having set up stealth rock. Thunder wave often cripples fire types like Thyplosion and Arcanine which may come in to scare it out, and is a useful support move to have in general. It’s EV’d more on the special side to handle most super effective hidden powers while being able to take flying and normal physical moves without massive problems. I like Registeel to free up the 4th slot on donphan, but at the same time.... I just love Spiritomb! Please help me determine who to use, or change my team completely! I don't care.
 

EmuKiller

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You're right! What do you feel would be an acceptable replacement for Crobat? I'm thinking having just one bulky water on my team, but maybe I need to head in a more offensive direction?

Any advice is good advice! But now we're looking at:

~Who should I replace Crobat with?
~Who should I pick between Spiritomb and Registeel?

EDIT: I replaced Crobat with Milotic, Bulky Water variant. Pretty simple choice but I think it's necessary so tell me what you guys think, or if there's a better replacement out there that I should be using!
 

Gates

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Yeah, I was about to say that between the fire types and Donphan your team has a major water weakness with only Milotic to help out with that.
 

SilentVerse

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At a quick glance, I believe this team will have many issues with a combination of Froslass+Moltres, or Moltres in general. All of your Pokemon will be 2HKO'd or OHKO'd with proper prediction, and that becomes intensified with entry hazards up. To deal with this, make Milotic a specially defensive variant of 252 HP/50 Def/ 204 SDef with a Calm Nature. Unfortunately, if you do this, you might have issues with Azumarill or Feraligatr. I'll come back later with more things, but right now, this is a very important issue that needs to be addressed on your team.

Edit: I would suggest Venusaur or Tangrowth to deal with waters, but I have no idea where you should put it...
 

EmuKiller

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My arcanine can't handle milotic switchins at all really! I used psypoke calculator just now and basically I only deal a 1/4 damage with HP grass. KINDA SUCKS! I need more offense against bulky waters!


I feel like a change to this team would have to be slightly more complex than I'm sure I understand. Blaziken and Arcanine having the same typing isn't really necessary (although the STAB fighting of Blaziken definitely is). Hmmm.... give me a minute!.

OKAY MORE THAN A MINUTE PASSED BUT YOU CAN'T TELL CAUSE IT'S THE SAME POST.

Well here are my options that I came up with super fast:

Sceptile @Choice Specs
Ability: Overgrow
Nature: Timid
EVs: 6 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
~Leaf Storm
~HP Ice
~Energy Ball
~Focus Blast

Mismagius
@Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SpA/ 252 Spe
~ Nasty Plot
~ Substitute
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunderbolt

Raikou @Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid
EVs: 232 SpA / 24 SpD / 252 Spe
~ Thunderbolt
~ Substitute
~ Calm Mind
~ HP Grass

Tangrowth @Leftovers
Ability: Chlorophyll
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpA
- Leaf Storm
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Synthesis

Tell me if you can think of any others! As far as a direct blaziken replacement, I suppose Sceptile would work the best, but honestly I'm just personally biased for using Mismagius because I think it looks the coolest. As far as best to counter bulky waters, Tangrowth definitely handles the job. Max HP and Defense to counter Kabutops and most waters, only issue is now I'm up against Moltres.

Truthfully I might switch out both Donphan and Blaziken. By not having a fire sweeper, I wouldn't have to worry as much about SR damage and don't need Donphan to rapid spin, allowing me to have him replaced with tangrowth for better defense against bulky waters. I'm worried about making too large of changes to my team that I end up getting a whole new threat to worry about, so honestly I'll leave it to you guys to help me out here. Mismagius + Tangrowth instead of Blaziken + Donphan? But jeez then I lose fighting type don't I! Ugh. I'm posting this and then coming back to in a couple hours or so. Has this UU team hit a... wall? Bahhha hahaha puns.
 

Terywj [태리]

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I would like to say something like replace Arcanine / Blaziken with Venusaur / Tangrowth, but then that leaves you at a loss for a lead Pokemon.

-Terywj
 
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