I need a counter for these chars, meta good?

[ADHD]

Luigi, ZSS, peach, olimar, ice climbers, falco, fox, pit and wolf.

 

[Roager]

Luigi- way outsped by MK, just be careful of his fire jump punch and green missile.
ZSS- could be an issue with her superior range, but SH airdodges might work.
Peach- be careful of her aerials if she predicts your attacks, but otherwise, she's nothing
Olimar- He's a tough one for anyone. He's got enough range to be a problem, but MK's as good as anyone else, I guess
Ice Climbers- aside from icecube spam, should be much of an issue. Just use n-air and D-smash more, since they hit both sides, and ICs like to desynch.
Falco/Fox/Wolf- they're fast, but you're faster. Just watch out for pistol spam and other such threats.

So yeah, MK is a fairly good counter for just about anyone. except maybe marth. He's fast and has better range than MK.

 

[ADHD]

Luigi- way outsped by MK, just be careful of his fire jump punch and green missile.
ZSS- could be an issue with her superior range, but SH airdodges might work.
Peach- be careful of her aerials if she predicts your attacks, but otherwise, she's nothing
Olimar- He's a tough one for anyone. He's got enough range to be a problem, but MK's as good as anyone else, I guess
Ice Climbers- aside from icecube spam, should be much of an issue. Just use n-air and D-smash more, since they hit both sides, and ICs like to desynch.
Falco/Fox/Wolf- they're fast, but you're faster. Just watch out for pistol spam and other such threats.

So yeah, MK is a fairly good counter for just about anyone. except maybe marth. He's fast and has better range than MK.

I added pit, hes a problem too kinda. Its kinda awesome how all my potentially bad matchups are solved by meta.

 

[DFEAR]

I added pit, hes a problem too kinda. Its kinda awesome how all my potentially bad matchups are solved by meta.

those are rather the easiest match ups with metaknight for his gimping really really hurts these characters badly, dont know why u didnt put snake there...hes everyones problem T__T.

meta has game both against vertically and horizontal paired characters such as luigi who has both but sadly one-two swipes of a clean dair would easily kill him *at %'s low enough for a quick chuckle xD* same with rest of characters. only things ud need to watch for is ur own % it racks up quick if u dnt pay a point attention, hes a light after all and dies fast.

pit... two nairs is all it takes xD possibly even less if he up+b's an attack cancels it out. and wat roager said sums up basicly mk game.

 

[Shears]

Luigi, ZSS, peach, olimar, ice climbers, falco, fox, pit and wolf.

Luigi - quick aerials with smashes that KO better than MK and he has great recovery. still, MK wins. Luigi shouldnt be too hard for MK.

ZSS - has great spacing, meteorsmash. doesnt have many KO options and with tether recovery MK takes it away. (just get good at using her armor pieces against her, otherwise she'll start off with a KO on you).

Peach - turnips dont do much and are easily avoided. all around has nothing over MK. get rid of her second jump and shes done. edgehog ftw.

Olimar - tornado, dsmash, edgehog, 3-stock. edgehog olimar, he cant hit you and grab the ledge with his upB, one or two dairs when hes off the stage and MK wins easy.

Ice Climbers - can be tricky with the duo. chaingrabbing combos will hurt and can cause big KOs on MK, but with spacing, speed, and edgeguarding ice climbers are toast.

Pit - keep pit off the stage, hit him in his upB, watch him fall to his death. his arrows are garbage, just airdodge, shield, or sidestep them. MK gobbles pit for lunch.

Fox - his lasers dont do anything but damage, just approach, pressure, edgeguard and he'll be finished. hes got better KO options, but youve got gimping, edgeguarding, speed, and spacing on yours.

Wolf - his reflector can stop alot of your approaches and combos. his lasers stop everything. his dsmash and fsmash are fast, great range, and can KO. just edgeguard/edgehog him and you should win without much trouble.

Falco - id say dont use MK. his chaingrab to dair is a free 50% his smashes can KO you around 85% so with his chaingrab hes almost there. dairs at the ledge prevent MK from coming up with a shuttle loop. his lasers and reflector stop everything and space greatly. falcos only weakness is his recovery against MK. which most of the time he will use forwardB which the tornado eats easily, but that wont make up for his free damage to almost KO %s on MK. i say choose another character because any good falco will house metaknight.

 

[ADHD]

Luigi - quick aerials with smashes that KO better than MK and he has great recovery. still, MK wins. Luigi shouldnt be too hard for MK.

ZSS - has great spacing, meteorsmash. doesnt have many KO options and with tether recovery MK takes it away. (just get good at using her armor pieces against her, otherwise she'll start off with a KO on you).

Peach - turnips dont do much and are easily avoided. all around has nothing over MK. get rid of her second jump and shes done. edgehog ftw.

Olimar - tornado, dsmash, edgehog, 3-stock. edgehog olimar, he cant hit you and grab the ledge with his upB, one or two dairs when hes off the stage and MK wins easy.

Ice Climbers - can be tricky with the duo. chaingrabbing combos will hurt and can cause big KOs on MK, but with spacing, speed, and edgeguarding ice climbers are toast.

Pit - keep pit off the stage, hit him in his upB, watch him fall to his death. his arrows are garbage, just airdodge, shield, or sidestep them. MK gobbles pit for lunch.

Fox - his lasers dont do anything but damage, just approach, pressure, edgeguard and he'll be finished. hes got better KO options, but youve got gimping, edgeguarding, speed, and spacing on yours.

Wolf - his reflector can stop alot of your approaches and combos. his lasers stop everything. his dsmash and fsmash are fast, great range, and can KO. just edgeguard/edgehog him and you should win without much trouble.

Falco - id say dont use MK. his chaingrab to dair is a free 50% his smashes can KO you around 85% so with his chaingrab hes almost there. dairs at the ledge prevent MK from coming up with a shuttle loop. his lasers and reflector stop everything and space greatly. falcos only weakness is his recovery against MK. which most of the time he will use forwardB which the tornado eats easily, but that wont make up for his free damage to almost KO %s on MK. i say choose another character because any good falco will house metaknight.

Um, I guess I'll go falco ditto in that case, those are weird. Thanks you guys, btw, snake is almost easy when you're diddy.

 

[~^.NoiR.^~]

Luigi, ZSS, peach, olimar, ice climbers, falco, fox, pit and wolf.

The only Diddy counters are Falco, Luigi, and maybe ice climbers A LITTLE. Just practice against the other characters with Diddy and use Metaknight to counter Falco, Luigi and IC if they give you problems.

 

[M@v]

You do realize Luigi has absolutely no move that cancels MKs tornado? Im not counting if you can land a dair into it. Just general cancelling out. Mk is pretty much 9:1 against luigi.

 

[~^.NoiR.^~]

You do realize Luigi has absolutely no move that cancels MKs tornado? Im not counting if you can land a dair into it. Just general cancelling out. Mk is pretty much 9:1 against luigi.

I said to USE metaknight for luigi, falco, and IC's. Thats why I picked up metaknight.

Also, no I didn't know that

 

[M@v]

I said to USE metaknight for luigi, falco, and IC's. Thats why I picked up metaknight.

Also, no I didn't know that

I wasnt talking directly to you man =). Just the thread in general. Yeah I mainly use MK vs pika and falco. Falco owns fox, and hes the most common fox counter I see in tourneys. #$@% his chain grab and his glicthes

 

[ADHD]

I said to USE metaknight for luigi, falco, and IC's. Thats why I picked up metaknight.

Also, no I didn't know that

Hey thats funny, me too! Btw, I've never had trouble with much of these guys as diddy except falco and ice climbers. The others are just potentially bad matchups that I would think I'd have trouble with. Btw above fox user, you can never beat sheik either (she gets no credibility as a fox counter but should! )